Latency with xbox live...

I don't get any lag when playing MW2 on someones host, but whenever i come to host its horrible for everyone else but me. I walk around normally, but everyone else jitters and lags.

My NAT is Open on my DG834GT router and it all passes the tests on Xbox Live. Dunno what the problem is, im on O2 LLU.
 
I don't get any lag when playing MW2 on someones host, but whenever i come to host its horrible for everyone else but me. I walk around normally, but everyone else jitters and lags.

My NAT is Open on my DG834GT router and it all passes the tests on Xbox Live. Dunno what the problem is, im on O2 LLU.

Your provider is throttling your band width when it sees peer to peer.
 
Your provider is throttling your band width when it sees peer to peer.

Don't think O2 LLU throttle though? Never had throttling issues with them with torrents or anything.

EDIT: O2 LLU dont throttle:

http://www.broadbandgenie.co.uk/bro...s-p2p-throttle-will-not-cut-connection-speeds

"This is only for O2 Access customers and will only be deployed during peak times where we see congestion. We have no plans to invoke the policy on our LLU 'O2 Home Broadband' products."
 
Well if his game is jerking only when he hosts they are doing something to his bandwidth. We have the exact same issue whe soulja hosts a game. His connection is alwasy good until he hosts then we get a delay in movement.
 
Not the best I guess:

Pinging www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.253.67] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.253.67: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=121
Reply from 212.58.253.67: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=121
Reply from 212.58.253.67: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=121
Reply from 212.58.253.67: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=121
Reply from 212.58.253.67: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=121
Reply from 212.58.253.67: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=121
Reply from 212.58.253.67: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=121
Reply from 212.58.253.67: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=121
Reply from 212.58.253.67: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=121
Reply from 212.58.253.67: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=121
Reply from 212.58.253.67: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=121
Reply from 212.58.253.67: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=121
Reply from 212.58.253.67: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=121
Reply from 212.58.253.67: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=121
Reply from 212.58.253.67: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=121

Ping statistics for 212.58.253.67:
Packets: Sent = 15, Received = 15, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 39ms, Maximum = 40ms, Average = 39ms

Not exactly a lot of hops either, though not few:

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.253.67]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms sky [192.168.0.1]
2 72 ms 35 ms 34 ms cr2.nes.uk.easynet.net [87.87.250.112]
3 31 ms 30 ms 30 ms fe2-0.ar1.enmid.uk.easynet.net [82.111.97.49]
4 40 ms 39 ms 39 ms te0-7-0-0.er11.thlon.ov.easynet.net [89.200.134.181]
5 39 ms 38 ms 39 ms 212.58.238.189
6 39 ms 39 ms 38 ms 212.58.238.153
7 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms te12-1.hsw1.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.234]
8 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms www-vip.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [212.58.253.67]

Trace complete.
 
When the map loads and just before the round starts usually on the score board everyone bar the host has really bad connection. I have been having issues with lag/hit detection issues recently. A right royal pain in the rear, get the 1st few shots off, get the little marker up center screen to say you have hit them and still end up dying with 1/2 shots from the other guy.
I'll have to have a look out for that.

My connection is rubbish due to the phone lines rather than my ISP (who is probably rubbish also but I don't know any better!) but it seems ok for gaming, just sloooow for large downloads.
 
Im telling you most of the lag is because your playing with a US host, the atlantic doesnt help your ping.

Don't matter who your provider is 3000 miles of cable takes time to transmit down.

From my experience if you have one US player in the game he will end up as host.
 
Im telling you most of the lag is because your playing with a US host, the atlantic doesnt help your ping.

Don't matter who your provider is 3000 miles of cable takes time to transmit down.

From my experience if you have one US player in the game he will end up as host.

This is almost always true. If an american has the host us in the UK will get an instant 100ish ms disadvantage off the bat. Factor in possible poor upload speeds or even poor weather for adsl users and it's a downright pain in the bottom.

I play with friends one of whom lives in denmark with 10mb up and down or something silly. He has open nat without having to fight his ISP for traffic shaping and you know when he has the host because the game runs like silk and all the players there are european.

There must be no matchmaking servers in europe so they default to a player in USA because they have lowest ping or something.
 
Well if his game is jerking only when he hosts they are doing something to his bandwidth. We have the exact same issue whe soulja hosts a game. His connection is alwasy good until he hosts then we get a delay in movement.

aye, and ADSL24 are known for throttling.
 
I'm having a nightmare with my isp at the moment, Had been with BT for around 4 months, and recently had a phone call from talk talk, offering me a new line and broadband for even cheaper. So had a quick chat with them as was going to go for it as long as I didnt end up with loads of charges from BT.

Found out 2 days later BT were going to want a couple of 100 quid off me, and decided against the whole thing, so phoned talk talk and cancelled it. Talk Talk still decide to send me out a router and all the start up information, so give them another call to make sure its all been cancelled, but alas they decided to go ahead with the whole thing, broadband was all changed over yesterday!

Now i'm in the process of talking to BT and Talk Talk to get this sorted, but no joy so far. Talk Talk has been rubbish so far, poor download speeds, Xbox live suffering like mad, and torrents are being throttled so much...

Would rather be back to BT, Had no problems with gaming online with them at all.

Sorry to hear about your hassles. I'm with TT...have been for a fair few years and whilst they're not perfect they are decent in my experience. I'm out in the sticks and they were one of the only ISPs prepared to do extended reach ADSL. Since starting at about a meg they have upgraded and improved the service to the point where I now get about 3.5m. Which, for my attenuation of nearly 60 is not bad. I have neighbours with BT on the other hand who are still on 0.5 meg connections...go figure.

Anyway - your ping is not good (duh) and if you haven't already I suggest getting yourself onto the TalkTalk forums and getting a mod to investigate your connection for you. If you are central Edinburgh your connection should be fast and stable. Just for reference my ping is fairly constant at 43ms and thats on a 12SNR Interleaved profile so, again you should be able to do even better than that. Get on to them and good luck :)
 
30ms is a perfectly good ping to a UK based website. Much lower, on an ADSL2+ connection, is usually obtained by having error connection turned off. It is quite plausible you have it turned off and he has it turned on, or he is on ADSL(1) which normally has it turned off, by default.


rp2000

I've not changed the error correction. I'd like to but I have to wait for my connection to have been activated for 14 days before I can change the interleaving.
 
Just ran the ping test to the beeb website and returned an average of 15ms, not bad for a 1meg connection. Shame its just sooo slow for downloading things. Upgrade time soon which should sort that out once I find a decent deal.
 
Well, how annoying.

PC1 Connects to my Wireless N Dlink DIR 635 router. When I tested pinging bbc it typically has around a 30ms response time. However, about 20%-30% of the time, it will spike anywhere from 50ms to almost 400ms!

Tested on PC2 which connects to the wireless G BT Home Hub, and that consistently got around 30ms.

Connected PC1 to the Home Hub and that consitently got around 30ms. Tested playing some MW2 and it was definitely a better gaming experience.

So I wasted money on paying for a "quality" piece of hardware which doens't work very well. Teh connection to it is always strong and the signal quality is apparently excellent, so I am not sure why it is doing this. Tried adjusting several settings but nothing made any diff -always got the lag spikes around 20% to 30% of the time...
 
Is PC one using Vista connected via a wireless network? If so thats just a vista querk and will not affect your xbox in any way.
 
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