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Latest Ryzen overclocks? Are the clocks improving yet?

On the 1800x you are probably looking at 4.1ghz with 3466-3600
4.2 seem to be unicorns
1700 you are looking at 3.9 with the odd rare 4.0 cropping up
 
is that native 3466/3600 ram, or is that achieved by fiddling with the bus?

In other news, I saw a special offer for an 1800x for $349 recently, and then a $30 discount for a motherboard. Pretty impressive price tbh.

Will be nice if they release new steppings at some point, but I get the feeling that AMD like to release new steppings as new models (i.e. higher price).
 
Scougar said:
is that native 3466/3600 ram, or is that achieved by fiddling with the bus?

In other news, I saw a special offer for an 1800x for $349 recently, and then a $30 discount for a motherboard. Pretty impressive price tbh.

Will be nice if they release new steppings at some point, but I get the feeling that AMD like to release new steppings as new models (i.e. higher price).
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Native, there are a load more dividers now compared to launch.
The bus is useless now tbh.
 
Just installed my ram and after a couple of reboots straight to 3333 using motherboards dividers and docp default settings. Bus is at standard speed. Will try how far it will go with c16 timings when I get a chance.
 
AMD have apparently been binning the best dies for the ThreadRipper series so I doubt it will improve anytime soon.
 
realistically 4ghz is about your limit for every day use of what most achieve.

refresh next eg will probably be 200-400mhz better.if you go by intel and amd previous.obviously there will be those golden rare chips but avg john doe still is at moment 3.9-4.0 max
 
Personally I have 1700X @ 3925 with 2933 RAM speed but that could well be the RAM or the board limiting the RAM speed.

Anymore overclock requires a load more volts and just not worth it. :)
 
As already said:
1700 = 3.9GHz - 4.0GHz
1800X = 4.0GHz - 4.1GHz

It's not going to improve, board manufacturers will just focus on bugs going forwards.
Though performance may improve through drivers and Windows updates, though don't expect a world of difference.
 
Mine is now fine at 3466 with c16 timings. It booted to windows at 3600 but was not stable when pushed, will have another quick go at some point.

Accidently booted to 1700 @ 4.0Ghz and quickly shut down once I realised what I had done. Use it at 3.675ghz with max 1.2v to keep temps low on stock cooler.
 
RAM compatibility and overclocking for RAM has definitely improved, I've gotten my timings down to 14-14-14-31-1T @ 3200Mhz (following settings along with changing A LOT of the sub timings and spending a good 2 hours messing about with it). My parts are in my sig but for those who can't see it I'm on an MSI X370 Carbon Pro motherboard, Ryzen R7 1800X CPU and Team Group X-Treme 16GB (2x8GB) rated for 3600Mhz (with loose timings), settings for my ram are below...

Tcas: 14T
Trcd: 14T
Trp: 14T
Tras: 31T
Trc: 60T
Trfc: 373T
Command Rate: 1T

I think you can safely change those and leave the rest of auto but spending a good solid amount of time and tightening up all the sub-timings and trying various peoples 'good' settings will net you a good 50 extra points in Cinebench and a feww extra FPS for those who like to game from just the RAM timings alone.

As for the CPU, my 1800X doesn't seem to want to go above 3950Mhz without having to really start pushing the voltage up, I 'can' get it to 4Ghz but to keep it stable I have to go over 1.4v as 1.4 just isn't quite stable enough and going above 1.4v isn't reccomended and isn't worth the extra heat and potential damage to my system for a measly 50Mhz. As I use my PC for quite CPU intensive tasks often for long hours at a time I've backed my overclock off to 3925Mhz, even though it's 'stable' at 3950Mhz it's only 25Mhz and offers a lot more stability and kicks out quite a bit less heat when under 100% load for hours at a time.
 
We are seeing better RAM support now as the BIOS' get updated. You will be more likely to hit that 3200MHz now rather than be stuck on 2666MHz.

The way Ryzen works it is a lot better to be running fast RAM than to try and eek out another 100-200MHz from the CPU
 
mmj_uk said:
AMD have apparently been binning the best dies for the ThreadRipper series so I doubt it will improve anytime soon.
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Yeah but what we saw in leaks was lower volts to get to to the same 4GHz not higher clocks.

Same brick wall but they wanted the most efficient components for the premium range with generally higher core counts.
 
Is OP looking at Ryzen hitting 4.5 or the like? If so then no that's not going to happen.

4.0 with fast RAM is the ideal setup. As games move away from less cores, to more cores, the clock speeds won't matter as much, but core count will. This is where Ryzen will flourish.
 
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