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LAZER3D LZ7 MINI-ITX CASE build advice

Discussion in 'Small Form Factor and Single Board Computers' started by Slap, Nov 1, 2018.

  1. Slap

    Hitman

    Joined: Nov 24, 2003

    Posts: 731

    Location: London

    Good morning dons :)

    I would like to have a go on first SFF build on a budget of aprox £550 with future upgrade potential. It will be mainly used for flight sims/games.

    I have components left over from an old build if parts can be of use:
    Windows 8 pro OS

    MSI HD 7970 Lightning BOOSTED Edition 3072MB

    Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor

    OCZ ZX Series 850W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply

    Crucial RealSSD M4 128GB 2.5" SATA 6Gbs Solid State Hard Drive

    Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9

    Also, does one have to buy external CD Rom player to install Windows with these SFF cases?

    Thanks for any help :)
     
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2018
  2. orbitalwalsh

    Capodecina

    Joined: Dec 1, 2015

    Posts: 13,783

    download windows to USB

    also you'll need an SFX PSU
     
  3. Slap

    Hitman

    Joined: Nov 24, 2003

    Posts: 731

    Location: London

    Thank you orbitalwalsh for advice.
    I have my windows OS on a disk(?).
     
  4. Quartz

    Soldato

    Joined: Apr 1, 2014

    Posts: 6,826

    Location: Aberdeen

    Just download the ISO and use Rufus to put it on a USB key. You might even just be able to just copy the whole DVD to the USB key (remember to copy hidden files etc).
     
  5. Slap

    Hitman

    Joined: Nov 24, 2003

    Posts: 731

    Location: London

    Brilliant, thanks Quartz.
     
  6. tamzzy

    Sgarrista

    Joined: May 26, 2012

    Posts: 8,062

    you'd need a z77 mini itx board no? these can cost quite a lot (even if they're second hand)
    also the only other step up would be the 3770k if you find the 2500k lacking grunt in the future.
    also as it's mini itx, it can only take 2 sticks of ram at any time. so to upgrade you'll have to swap your ram for 2x8gb sticks.
    seeing as you don't have a mobo...might be worth a consideration to upgrade the platform, rather than being tied to your 2500k.

    also, as mentioned earlier, you'll need a sfx/sfx-l sized psu

    lastly, your gpu is too big to fit into the case. you'll need a gpu designed specifically for sff pc to fit.
     
  7. Slap

    Hitman

    Joined: Nov 24, 2003

    Posts: 731

    Location: London

    Thank you tamzzy for all that info, very helpful. I will start researching components for my build, but I fear they will laugh at my £550 budget ...=/
    :)
     
  8. tamzzy

    Sgarrista

    Joined: May 26, 2012

    Posts: 8,062

    is the case included in the budget?
    if the case is from a separate budget, it's potentially doable - you have members market access, so you can flog your current items for ~£150, giving you a £700 budget :)
     
  9. Slap

    Hitman

    Joined: Nov 24, 2003

    Posts: 731

    Location: London

    Thanks for good advice tamzzy! Yes the
    case is included in
    budget but can bump it up to £700 if I wait a couple of months..
    I forgot about members market, thx!
     
  10. Slap

    Hitman

    Joined: Nov 24, 2003

    Posts: 731

    Location: London

    My new mini build is up and running. I cannot praise this case enough! it cost an arm and leg but worth every penny imho! I think it is an incredible piece of design/art!. My days of massive cases are over, I am converted 100%. If I'm being nit-picky, the only criticism is that the case screws could be a little flusher.
    This was my first build after 6 years being out of the loop and I must say how incredibly idiot-proof it was to build with mobo/bios/Win10 (drivers/hardware setup etc).
    No issues at all (apart from wrong speed ram detected/quick fix in BIOS settings np) and, compared to my old system, she really flies! Like night and day.
    80% of components where bought from OCUK, only had to go elsewhere for a better price on a couple of components.
    OCUK are a great E-seller, most probably the best imho (I've been with them for over 16 years), but do check for deals is the only advice I can give if penny pinching.
    The thing that truly makes OCUK great is the support/knowledge from there users/forums. Thank you.

    Components bought for build:
    • Lazer3D LZ7 Mini-ITX.(amazing case)
    • Corsair SF450 450W SFX Silent PSU/Power Supply.
    • MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC (Socket AM4) Mini-ITX Motherboard.
    • Zotac NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB Mini Graphics Card.
    • AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 2600 3.90GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail.
    • TeamGroup 480GB L5 Lite SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive.
    • Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey.
    • Noctua NH-L9a-AM4 Low Profile CPU Cooler- 92mm/NF-A9x14 PWM premium fan.
    • Be quiet 140mm case fan
    • Corsair SF450 450W SFX Silent PSU/Power Supply.
    • Win10 Pro 64 (bought legit for £20 on well know selling site/one install only)
    • AOC Q3279VWFD8 32" monitor (absolute bargain at £200!)

    Sims/games installed:

    Condor 2 soaring
    IL2 Cliffs Of Dover Blitz edition
    Rise Of Flight
    Eagerly waiting for IL2 "Flying circus"
    Shadow of the Tomb Raider

    Some pics of build:
    https://imgur.com/ROkhIZo
    https://imgur.com/DTbFT1N
    https://imgur.com/LDcL9ef
    https://imgur.com/HDYpx5W
    https://imgur.com/ow5h2QW
    https://imgur.com/pi5kyt6
    https://imgur.com/ferM2hn (my old Dell 24" next to OAC monitor for size comparison)

    Thank you all for your help and support on my build! Priceless and much appreciate as always.

    If anyone has any questions, please ask and I will do my best to answer (nothing kinky please...). :)


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    Arigato!
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2019
  11. tamzzy

    Sgarrista

    Joined: May 26, 2012

    Posts: 8,062

    v nice.

    one thing to add though, set the offset voltage to -0.1v (well...between -0.05v and -0.1v depending on #siliconlottery), if you're not planning on overclocking.
    especially with a small cooler and case, this will give more headroom for PB2/XFR2 to work its magic ;)
     
  12. Slap

    Hitman

    Joined: Nov 24, 2003

    Posts: 731

    Location: London

    Thanks tamzzy.
    I presume these settings are through BIOS.
    Remind me what PB2/XFR2 does please? (brain hurts from late nigh sesh...).

    Cheers
     
  13. Slap

    Hitman

    Joined: Nov 24, 2003

    Posts: 731

    Location: London

    Yes not planning to OC just yet. All seems to be working fine for now. The air cooling/design of this case really does help to keep things cooler (and the Be quiet 140mm case fan of course).
     
  14. Slap

    Hitman

    Joined: Nov 24, 2003

    Posts: 731

    Location: London

  15. tamzzy

    Sgarrista

    Joined: May 26, 2012

    Posts: 8,062

    @Slap

     
  16. tamzzy

    Sgarrista

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    Posts: 8,062

  17. Slap

    Hitman

    Joined: Nov 24, 2003

    Posts: 731

    Location: London

    Wish I never asked now lol...
    Thanks man
     
  18. tamzzy

    Sgarrista

    Joined: May 26, 2012

    Posts: 8,062

    if your board doesn't have voltage offset, then you're running on an older bios.
    you can update the bios to the latest version if you want the added functionality.
     
  19. Slap

    Hitman

    Joined: Nov 24, 2003

    Posts: 731

    Location: London

    Thankz T. I did install latest Bios. Got the offset options and changed settings to 0.0500v in cpu voltage offset.
    Also got offset option on cpu nb/soc voltage.

    pic: http://imgur.com/a/T4Z8xLu
     
  20. tamzzy

    Sgarrista

    Joined: May 26, 2012

    Posts: 8,062

    @Slap set the CPU offset mark to negative from auto. IIRC auto = positive
    usual range is -0.05 to -0.1v. play with it and i'd aim for -0.1v (as long as no crashes)
    -0.1125v if you have a good chip