Learning Javascript and Frameworks getting in the way (JQuery)

[sithlord]

So Ive been trying to learn about JSONP and other features of Javascript but most of the examples I can find are all based on JQuery.

Is it just me are does anyone else find it annoying when your trying to learn something and all you can find are examples using frameworks. I personally prefer looking at what goes on under the hood, not abstract functions which some else has wrote.

 

[Dj_Jestar]

Get used to it. Everything is an abstraction to some degree. We don't read 1s and 0s when we look at code examples.

 

[kayomani]

You might prefer trying things out in nodejs

 

[Tripnologist]

Is it just me are does anyone else find it annoying when your trying to learn something and all you can find are examples using frameworks. ...

Can you not just Google the native JS equivalent.
In the case of a jQuery orientated JSONP tutorial, the only real difference should be the actual ajax request and the parsing of any data. Both of which are easy to find pure JS tutorials on.

If you're wanting to learn pure JS, I'd strongly suggest a tutorial site like tuts+, some books, or free resources, such as http://eloquentjavascript.net/.

 

[GravyMonster]

Dont forget to use '-jquery' on any googling you do to exclude those results

 

[Fallen god]

http://javascript.crockford.com/

Ive have used a lot off crockfords resources and talks to learn a lot about Javascript and it has helped a lot, seems like a totally ass but it is basically one of the most knowledgeable persons on Javascript I have found online.