Lenovo M710Q uSFF thingie ma whatsit Motherboard VR thermal throttling

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So here's the question no one ever asked.... can I ditch the 25w CPU that comes with the miniscule Lenovo M710Q and go large! - yes, you can, but that 65w power brick wont do.

I swapped to a reasonable 65w i7-7700 and it ran fine on the stock power brick, but it said it was CPU thermal throttling when benchmarking, and clocks were all over - temps were reasonable though, and it was struggling to maintain more than 25-30w TDP. I swapped the power brick to a 90w version and hey presto, I have 30-50w+ running through the CPU on Prime95.

This runs well but does thermal throttle quite quickly, a -150mv core voltage offset did wonders here, instantly smoothed out the temperature and boost clocks to the max of 4.0ghz for 4 core loads but only for 10 minutes, after that IntelXTU reports Motherboard VR thermal throttling and I see "VR VVC Temperature" in HWinfo is reaching around 96c when throttling kicks in. I popped open the case and as is to be expected, non of the VRMs are cooled at all. I cut up and stuck on some rudimentary cooling with Sekisui#5760, just to test theories - it seemingly made no difference. I covered the two driver/mosfets IC's near the CPU, as well two below it, and also a controller on the back of the motherboard - alas...... it made no difference at all..........

So next up, I'll get the mobo setup out of the chassis and get it toasty and then hit it with the FLIR, and see if I can see anything that looks uphappy - that'll have to wait a few weeks though.

Stay tuned to find out the answer to the question that's literally not on anyones lips!
 
For reference, I do a bit of light gaming in the garage when I'm supposed to be working....... World of Tanks was a bit choppy on the stock i5-6500T struggling to maintain 60fps regardless of res and sometimes dipping below it. I tweaked a few bios settings and dropped the 7700 in, and we now have 165+ FPS and it's as smooth as silk at 1080P. I'm running a pair of Kingston HyperX 8gb 2400mhz C14 DDR4 which already doubled the FPS from 30 of so with stock 6500T and garbage single stick of 8gb generic.

It only thermal throttles in synthetic benchmarks, but if something is getting toasty, I want to cool it, we are after all pushing this PCB a little outside its 35w CPU TDP spec, and the model that replaced it, had the same PCB, but 3 phases instead of two (I can see mine has unoccupied solder pads for a 3rd phase) - Also the M920 that repalces it, can run a pretty beefy dedicated GPU inside it's mini chassis (the whole thing is only 180mm square and 35mm thick!)
 
Also, I have a 320w powerbrick to try from my Legion 5pro so I will check if that helps but I doubt it.
I should also swap back to the 6500T and see if it'll bench any better with the bigger PSU...... the 7700 was garbage until I put that 90w PSU on it!
 
Well, for what it's worth, I thought I'd run 3Dmark TimeSpy to get an idea of how well this pint size PC is handling it's new CPU upgrade.......... I've given up using image hosting since they always seem to die eventually, hopefully google is more reliable.

Timespy Screenshot below, average screw for an "intel HD graphics 630" is 464, mine is benching at 520, thats a 12% increase, and the absolute all time best is only 525!

Absolutely no arguing with that, it's as good as a HD630 gets by the looks of it and many of them are in CPU's with much higher TDP's and significantly larger cases and cooling systems, so I think we can say the pint size PC is running this i7-7700 very well!

 
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