Leopard 9A466 (Developers Build)

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Hey folks,

Just wondering who's had a chance to play around with the latest developers build of Leopard?

They've got it at a place I do contractual work at and it's amazing to see all the stuff Mr. Jobs showed us WWDC and have a play around.

It looks like its going to be a big transition from Tiger (especially in relation to the 10.3 => 10.4 move).
 
i am an avid mac fan and have been looking forward to leopard..

had a chance to try it out yesterday and i was really impressed.

i have to admit tho i was slightly disappointed at the same time.
its ruff around the edges. Which is to be expected in beta software.
But over all its looking good and its a definite improvement over tiger, as you would expect.



One of my major grips with mac is the lack of proper cut and paste in finder.
i mean come on.. this is an essential thing in any modern OS.
i use network shares a lot and its just hassle to move stuff by copying it and then going back to the original location.
They should looks and windows and copy its copy and paste functionality.
apparently apple thinks cut in finder is too confusing an option for us mac users.
if not a cut feature there should be a "move file" feature which would do the same thing but under a clearer name!
it needs a keyboard shortcut and its need to be fast :)
 
yea the cut/paste is definitely something that is annoying as you have to hold the item down and take it to where it needs to go, just takes more time.
There is a cut/paste "hack" out there I've seen but not tried myself, something I might look into in the new OS if its still missing
 
Is it just me or does anyone want Apple to use the shaded matte blue scroll bars like in iTunes through out the OS in Leopard? The glossy ones are starting to look a bit old to me especially as Vista is all glossy now too.
 
Check out the Leopard development roadmap over in the official Leopard thread :)
 
Loving stacks, loving Quick Look. I'm not using spaces as much as I did with last year's preview, but I've not migrated fully, once I have I can see that changing.

I agree about the scroll bars, even switching to graphite doesn't help much, iTunes style would be perfect.
 
aye, stacks are awesiome - here are 2 things I'm not a fan of:

- The transparent Apple bar at the top. I prefer the solid white colour and the blue that is used in 10.4 when clicking an option on it.

- The dock. i think it's a great idea - but the way i have my dock on my MBP is how I prefer it all round. Tiny - like quicklaunch on Windows and in the bottom left. I think the 'table' ruins that a bit. Hopefully there will be some GUI software to alter the dock like with Tiger.
 
My ADC seed became available today. I've installed it on a MacBook Pro and a PowerMac G5.

First impressions... XCode 3 is more stable than in 9A410.

"3D" Dock - I hate it. First of all... it looks messy and cluttered. The 2D Dock looks a lot more elegant and a lot cleaner. The icons on the "3D" dock have a large gap below them just to show off the reflection... which gets boring after 10 seconds. At the moment, dragging items into the Dock is tricky, especially if the dock is vertical.

The menu bar at the top... rubbish!

It you have a background image which is even remotely complex, then it becomes very difficult to read the text. Even some of Apple's supplied background images have cause problems.

The new Cocoa Finder. Very good UI improvements. Coverflow is okay, but I guess it will be the least used out of the four possible views. The network mapping is really good. SMB shares have a good icon. It's a CRT monitor showing a BSOD. lol

Stacks: not sure about this one. In previous versions of OS X, you can drag a folder down on to the right-hand side of the dock. Left clicking opens a Finder window, and right clicking makes a kind of Start menu.

In Leopard, Stacks is just a prettied up version of what previous releases can already do. Except, to get a Finder window with Stacks, you have to do two clicks. In older versions, you just use one click.

The new Frontrow. I never liked the Apple TV UI, it seems a step backwards from Frontrow in Tiger... and now they've put the same UI into Leopard. There's no nice 3D transition from the desktop to Frontrow in Leopard. Overall.. unimpressed... but hopefully it'll improve by the time the general release is available.

The main things I'm pleased about is that XCode is more stable, so I can now hopefully dump XCode 2.4 an move some code over to ObjC 2.0 and use some of the new APIs like Core Animation in my application.

There's a lot of work that still has to be done before release. Hopefully by then, Apple will include options for a 2D Dock, and an opaque menu bar.
 
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No More you pretty much summed up all my thoughts with your post. To me - I still feel that Leopard needs a little bit more work before it's ready for release.

Oh and the top menu bar is terrible! I prefer the lack of opacity and the original blue highlight colour in 10.4 rather than the 'new look'.
 
Does Apple listen to feedback from beta testers? Hopefully they'll scrap the transparent bar (STOP COPYING MICROSOFT) and put the white opaque one back on.
 
Robotica said:
its an option I believe
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Nope, the UI options are very limited in the System Pref panes. Unless Apple have something hidden up their sleeve - we may have to rely on 3rd party apps to bring the menu bar back to normality :)
 
toosepin said:
Nope, the UI options are very limited in the System Pref panes. Unless Apple have something hidden up their sleeve - we may have to rely on 3rd party apps to bring the menu bar back to normality :)
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They will be adding the ability to turn it off :)
 
chex said:
can you dual boot leopard and tiger?
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Yes. Just install Leopard on a second partition or HDD, then hold down ALT while booting up, you can then select between both OSs.
 
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