Life of me can't get the ram to run 3600mhz

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Right I start with the specs
Mobo MSI X570 tomohawk WiFi
CPU 5900x stock
RAM Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 32gb 4 sticks of 8gb all 4 banks full
SSD's sabarent rocket 1tb, XPG SX8200 Pro 1tb
GPU sapphire Radeon 6900xt
Powersupply Kolink Continum 80+ platinum 850w
CPU Cooler Corsair i100 RGB Pro platinum

ALL built into Corsair 4000x Rgb case

The ram is supposed to run at 3600mhz at CL18 with its XMP profile at 1.35v... Its just for the life of me I can't get it to run stable I have upped the SOC to 1.1V and taken the Dram volts to 1.45v still not stable... I have disabled XMP and manually overclocked to 3600mhz no luck

The strange thing is I can run rock stable at 3466mhz at the original timings haven't tried to tighten the timing at that speed at moment with 1.4V dram and SOC 1.1v

And also can run 3200mhz rock stable at the original loose timings (haven't again looked at tightening the timings)

Back in software I checked what die my ram is using all 4 sticks are on Samsung B Die

ANY help would be greatly appreciated of where to go next...

Part of me wants to give up on 3600mhz and just run 3200mhz with timing as tight as I can get them... Another part of me wants to return the sticks get 4000mhz and clock them down to 3600mhz with tighter timings...

EDIT I read somewhere getting 2 sticks 32gb are more stable that 4 stick 32gb setup but the reason I gone with 4 stick setup is because of that Gamer Nexus Post about ryzen 5000 perfering 4 banks over 2...
 
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Same mobo, turn XMP off and set the speed and so on to auto then use memory-try it at 3600, have several to choose from.
Try it. never know it might push higher
my 3200 runs at 3600 cl16
 
Same mobo, turn XMP off and set the speed and so on to auto then use memory-try it at 3600, have several to choose from.
Try it. never know it might push higher
my 3200 runs at 3600 cl16

I have dabbled with memory try it with xmp off and all in auto I only tried 1 of the 3600mhz settings it failed to boot had to hard clear the cmos to get it running again...
 
7C84v14 is the bios I have atm.
Also, 4 sticks 8pack ddr4 3200 b-die.

No need for me to upgrade the bios as I'm running a 3900x.
did you try the mem try it 3600 16 16 16 16 ?
 
I have found 4x8gb 3600 cl18 LPX to be temperamental. Previous 2x8gb 3000 cl16 LPX was much more stable at stock volts.
Saying that i got 3900mhz at 1.50v, but ended up back at 3600 and 1.40v.
 
Did you buy the Vengenance RGB Pro as a kit of 4 or was it two kits of 2x8GB? I recently bought the exact same memory but 2 kits from another retailer and they would boot together in a 4x8Gb configuration at 3600MHz but quicky give a blue screen or other error in windows. However when I just tried a 2x8GB single kit it would work perfectly and even overclock to 4000MHz.Thaipoon Burner showed they had Nanya chips which are normally not supposed to be that good.

Both kits would work great seperately but not together, even when set to 3000MHz. This was on an Asus Tuf Gaming x570 Plus. Had to send them back since it was a no go.

I've ordered some 2x16Gb Crucial Ballistix and won't bother with all the dual rank hype. It's not going to make much difference at 1440P anyway.
 
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Did you buy the Vengenance RGB Pro as a kit of 4 or was it two kits of 2x8GB? I recently bought the exact same memory but 2 kits from another retailer and they would boot together in a 4x8Gb configuration at 3600MHz but quicky give a blue screen or other error in windows. However when I just tried a 2x8GB single kit it would work perfectly and even overclock to 4000MHz.Thaipoon Burner showed they had Nanya chips which are normally not supposed to be that good.

Both kits would work great seperately but not together, even when set to 3000MHz. This was on an Asus Tuf Gaming x570 Plus. Had to send them back since it was a no go.

I've ordered some 2x16Gb Crucial Ballistix and won't bother with all the dual rank hype. It's not going to make much difference at 1440P anyway.

It was one kit of 4 sticks of 8gb... I got Samsung b die in mine... May I ask what voltage and timings were you stable at and did you change the SOC voltage?? Also what motherboard you running??
 
It was one kit of 4 sticks of 8gb... I got Samsung b die in mine... May I ask what voltage and timings were you stable at and did you change the SOC voltage?? Also what motherboard you running??

I just set voltage to 1.385 and SOC to 1.15V for testing and then tested at 3800MHz and also 4000MHz. The 4000 showed slightly worse results for Memory Read and Latency so just tried to get best timings for 3800MHz. Best I got was something like 17-19-20-21-39 for the RGB Pro (Nanya) 2x8Gb @ 3800MHz, Vdram =3.65V, SOC-1.1V.

I've returned the RGB Pro because I couldn't get all 4 sticks to work otherwise would have kept it at those settings. Latency was around 69ns in AIDA64 but I think that is also affected by which cpu you have.

Edit: My specs are in sig.
 
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