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Linus' "Driver improvements over time" video

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The video in question is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZUshOSWQRo

Now while there is nothing wrong with the video itself i do have an issue that he labelled it as "Then vs Now Video Card Drivers" when it should have been labelled "Then vs Now Nvidia Video Card Drivers".

I'm sure you're now thinking that i'm some butthurt AMD fanboy, but when you get clickbait videos like this that completely ignore one manufacturer over the other what's the point of making a video to compare "drivers over time" when you aren't making it an apples to apples comparison.

If for example in-win make a case and corsair makes a case, you're not going to review improvements to the in-win case because they have a lower market share? Come on Linus.

I also quote what Linus said on his own forum about why he didn't include AMD:
NVIDIA owns 80 percent of the discrete graphics card market. This video addresses 80% of our audience and was less than half as much work as one that includes another graphics card just to drive home the same point.
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Source: -snip- Just realised there is swearing. If you google "GTX 480 Video Card Drivers - Then vs Now" you'll find it.

So what if AMD only supposedly has 20% of the market? Ignoring the fact that AMDs drivers also power their APUs rather than just discreet GPU. His bias has (at least in my opinion) become worse over time. Anyone else feel the same?
 
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If he said that he's an idiot. Market share is the percentage of cards sold in the most recent quarter. 80% of people buying Nvidia cards in Q2 doesn't mean that 80% of all gamers and people who watch his video are Nvidia users.

Nvidia give out more money in marketing and advertising, review sites cover Nvidia more, they get more sales, it's a vicious circle that kills companies. Marketing is more important than products. Probably 80% of gamers will casually say that AMD have crap drivers and Nvidia drivers are near flawless simply because enough people say it. Perception is more important than reality and has been for years in most industries.

I was involved in review sites, going to NDA covered press meetings in late 90's early 00's. It's entirely bent, every website I know of gives favourable coverage based on where their income is from.

I trust non implicitly, I take an average from several review sites and expect the numbers won't often be outrageously wrong and make an educated guess as to the reality of the situation, it's all you can really do.
 
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Man that guy has a grating voice.

Fair play to him, he's done well.

8800GT was the king of extra performance from drivers, man that card had some legs!
 
A balanced professional view would have been nice though. I agree with some of the posters above that it's the perception of what is out there rather than the reality of it all is what kills companies.

We all know how over time the AMD drivers really did improve the performance of the 290X. Maybe they wont do it because it doesnt suit their "Green" agenda.

Don't forget that AMDs drivers are crap.....because Nvidia fans say so. So just take a look at the Nvidia Driver thread over the last few months...it paints a totally different picture.

You can also take a look at PC Perception's podcast 363 which has two sections called DX12 Tested and Intel Adaptive Sync if you want to see Ryan Shrout almost choke while he has to tell you that a 290X card has gained better performance out of DX12 than a 980Ti (Even to the point where he starts calling it a 390X and refering to the Ti as just a 980 - my, my the lengths those green boys will go to). Also Allyn Malventano saying that Nvidia may have to support Freesync in the next iteration of Nvidia cards.

DX12 and Freesync.....maybe AMD were just thinking of the future and not just about today. Some of the comments on that podcast are priceless.

PC Perspective Podcast 363 is an AMD fanboys dream...it really is.

:D
 
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Linus is an unashamed Nvidia fanboy. His only complaint about a FreeSync monitor the other week is that it wasn't G-Sync. I guess you either take or leave his videos with that in mind.
 
Aretak said:
Linus is an unashamed Nvidia fanboy. His only complaint about a FreeSync monitor the other week is that it wasn't G-Sync. I guess you either take or leave his videos with that in mind.
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Coming from him that comment alone tells you how good the monitor probably is.
:)

It's not the launch anyone would have really wanted but I think it's slowly starting to gain a little momentum.

"The Freesync and The Fury(ous)" indeed.

:)
 
If he is comparing older and newer NVidia drivers I hope he points out the drop in performance on the latest family of drivers.

8 Pack is not happy with the latest ones when he plays his favorite game, PSU Meltdown.:D
 
Kaapstad said:
If he is comparing older and newer NVidia drivers I hope he points out the drop in performance on the latest family of drivers.

8 Pack is not happy with the latest ones when he plays his favorite game, PSU Meltdown.:D
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Funny how this video appeared shortly after the results of the first DX12 game. He also failed to mention how unstable the recent Nvidia drivers are (at least from what i've heard).

Do Nvidia's new drivers cause the cards to eat more electricity?
 
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thebennyboy said:
Funny how this video appeared shortly after the results of the first DX12 game. He also failed to mention how unstable the recent Nvidia drivers are (at least from what i've heard).
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I have given up running any benches until NVidia comes up with some drivers to make it worthwhile.

I ran the Mordor bench before I switched to Win10 and got 150fps @2160p. After I switched to Win10 I was struggling to get 100fps.:eek:
 
ye I called him out on that too, I assumed it was just an oversight / lazy rather than an actual decision, maybe they just had more nvidia cards around, you could be right though, I never thought he might have been on the green team
 
I listened to the video on the way home. I think there is a bit of overreaction tbh. To me it was just a "here are some drivers, and here's other's we compared them with" etc. The vendor didn't really seem to matter that much.
 
Useless, 5 year old card, who still runs a GTX 480?.
Something more recent is far more relevant, Kepler, GCN even Maxwell, lets see how the Drivers have improved over time with them.
 
As much as Linus's voice cuts through me and he spends more time on adverts than reviews lately, I found the vid interesting. I don't see where the fanboy part comes from but I suppose if you want to see it that way (as quite a lot of people here do), then you can see anything said/done as fanboyism.

Interesting that performance gains and then tapers off in the last driver tested but some real nice performance gains for the 480 in the games tested.

Good work Linus.
 
Kaapstad said:
If he is comparing older and newer NVidia drivers I hope he points out the drop in performance on the latest family of drivers.

8 Pack is not happy with the latest ones when he plays his favorite game, PSU Meltdown.:D
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He should buy the DLC for that game, Mobomelt.
 
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