Linux for old pc?
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Well, the 3dfx cards appear on the HCL... http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/VideoCard
Not seen the Erazor III on it though.
Not seen the Erazor III on it though.
GarethDW said:
Will that car be good enough to fix this problem. Also is it ok if I just swap the cards or will i have to do some extra 'setting-up'?
Also, I dont exactly know how these sorts of things work, but I want this computer totally secure, as I when I am buying stuff from the internet I don't have to worry about other things because I am not the only one that uses this PC. So is there any way i can setup firefox not to cache anything or stuff so that there is nothing to "steal" as such, or is there no need to worry about that sort of thing under linux?
Well, just to let you know that I have thrown out Celeron PC, it's so hopeless. 
I'm not at all impressed with Ubuntu or Slackware (too many incomparability problems, too advanced for me!)...however, I pulled out my 1 Ghz pc and installed OpenSUSE with Gnome GUI...easiest the best Linux OS I have come across and runs great with simple & uncomplicated GUI. It is very usable out of box and easy to find system settings if you need to.
I'm not at all impressed with Ubuntu or Slackware (too many incomparability problems, too advanced for me!)...however, I pulled out my 1 Ghz pc and installed OpenSUSE with Gnome GUI...easiest the best Linux OS I have come across and runs great with simple & uncomplicated GUI. It is very usable out of box and easy to find system settings if you need to.
barnettgs said:Well, just to let you know that I have thrown out Celeron PC, it's so hopeless.
I'm not at all impressed with Ubuntu or Slackware (too many incomparability problems, too advanced for me!)...however, I pulled out my 1 Ghz pc and installed OpenSUSE with Gnome GUI...easiest the best Linux OS I have come across and runs great with simple & uncomplicated GUI. It is very usable out of box and easy to find system settings if you need to.
Hmm, you found Ubuntu hard to use? I think its very easy.
What version did you try may i ask?
Sorry, I was referring to Slackware. Ubuntu and Xubuntu installed fine but were too sluggish to run on old Celeron.Conrad11 said:
Also I have tried Ubuntu on 1Ghz too but somehow, OpenSUSE feels snapper to use and does not freeze when it is busy.
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Slack will work with older hardware. Whether it's a "light" version of Linux or not is upto what you choose to install. It's highly customisable so it can be used on machines as recent as a few months or it can be used on the machine you're installing on.barnettgs said:I just remembered that I saw 5 ISO on download list but I went away downloading the only first one thinking slackware is light version of linux...but I thought slackware is ideal for older PC?
barnettgs said:
You have to remember that Linux is a free OS. Very rarely do things work out of the box. It's like being acquiring a bit of land and all the raw materials and tools needed to build a house in any way that you want, but you have to do the actual building yourself, whereas Windows is like buying a house just like all millions of other houses and then it's just a matter of decorating it to your liking.
Cake said:You have to remember that Linux is a free OS. Very rarely do things work out of the box. It's like being acquiring a bit of land and all the raw materials and tools needed to build a house in any way that you want, but you have to do the actual building yourself, whereas Windows is like buying a house just like all millions of other houses and then it's just a matter of decorating it to your liking.
That said, I found Kubuntu recognised all my hardware fine and it runs well, every my Wireless Network card which I was very surprised out, just needed to attach it to my router and I was away.
Yes, the people at Ubuntu try their hardest to make their products work out of the box. Unfortunately for me, it wouldn't recognise my NIC card (something to do with being a PCI-E card, I guess) when I installed it so I had no internet connection and I switched to Fedora Core 6. It all depends on your hardware and if it's supported yet or not (or if it ever will be).
I honestly don't know about the card, mate. Give it a try. Just swapping the cards over and rebooting should be fine.Conrad11 said:
As for securing your Linux box, well generally Linux is more secure than, for example, a Windows-based PC- especially due to the lack of spyware and the very few Linux virii that are in the wild. The whole thing about running under an everyday user account instead of an Administrator account really does make a huge difference.
That's not to say that a Linux box is not vulnerable... no OS is 100% secure. Software is written by humans so it is bound to contain bugs which can be exploited. Always try to make sure you're running the latest patches to mitigate any vulnerabilities.
If you're serious about security (or maybe just a bit paranoid
) you might want to have a look at Bastille Linux, which is a hardening program that locks down your install of Linux and - importantly - it explains why configuring certain things in certain ways is a good idea. It's compatible with Fedora, SUSE, Debian, Gentoo, and Mandrake distros.Their website is http://www.bastille-linux.org/
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Conrad11 said:
I have win xp running pretty well on a system same as yours, but I have just downloaded several versions of Linux to try. Last time I used Linux was years ago and once installed I couldn't even get my network card to work.
GarethDW said:
What i was referring to was things that were in Firefox's Cache or saved passwords in FireFox.
For instance, I personally, am on Windows and before I go to do anything important, like check banks, paypal, buy stuff etc..I always totally clear my cache and all saved things.
I am wondering if it was just left in firefox under linux, would websites or stuff be able to steal any details like credit card details for instance?
firewallblocked said:I have win xp running pretty well on a system same as yours, but I have just downloaded several versions of Linux to try. Last time I used Linux was years ago and once installed I couldn't even get my network card to work.
I was going to use Windows XP, but Kunbuntu was just so easy and quicker to install and setup fully, including internet, all the required applications and updates.
Plus with linux there is less chance of mucking everything up because to do anything important i have set an admin password. Because whenever someone else went on her pc they would download things like msn messenger and msn plus and all that crap....Now thats not possible...or at least to install.
And there is the added bonus of not having to worry so much about virri for instance.
Oops, sorry. I got completely the wrong end of the stick.Conrad11 said:
You can do exactly the same in Firefox under Linux too. All the credit card details would be stored on the server of the site you entered them into, but usernames and passwords are stored locally, so that's what would be stolen if your machine got compromised.
GarethDW said:
Yeah but i'm thinking that sometimes you see them appear in the "autocomplete" data...so I am thinking they can be stolen from there.
What I am getting at, is it the same in linux as it is in windows...are there things that are specific to steal from linux firefox, or does it not matter about the os?
GarethDW said:
I was referring to the way the data is stored. For instance, I thought it might be stored differently on Firefox under Linux than Firefox under Windows. So if there is a password stealer for Firefox under Windows then it wouldn't work for Firefox under Linux. But its probably just the way you said.