Linux from scratch - how much hassle?

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IS it worth attempting? I have Arch pretty well nailed for what I want, but is LFS worth the hassle?

Anyone got a beginner install guide?

How much effort/ how much more difficult is it compared to following the arch beginners guide on the wiki?

ta kindly
 
Humm i did this once aggggggges ago.... Have you ever done a Gentoo install (full manual one following the guide book)? Its sort of like that, but no emerge to make things comparitivly simple.

Here's the install guide http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/ for me it reads a bit like a cross between debians install and gentoos handbook (some VERY detailed bits).

But yeah its quite abit harder than the arch install (as that is an easy graphical installer) but its very insteresting (like doing a stage 1 gentoo but its more likely to work in the end)
 
Oxy said:
Which ones the deep end? LFS or Gentoo?

Are they "better" than Arch? or am i wasting my time? :p
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Haha, urm gentoo is better for not being quite as deep (as i said this morning its got portage which helps a lot in retreiving source code and getting the compiling going).

Id give LFS ago just to prove your a man! (ill do one 2 over the weekend if you want moral support/help/prove im cool too...) :cool:
 
call me a skeptic but on a decent spec'd box i think you'd have a hard time noticing the difference between a Arch install and LFS/Gentoo.

do LFS for that elitist feeling :p
 
marscay said:
call me a skeptic but on a decent spec'd box i think you'd have a hard time noticing the difference between a Arch install and LFS/Gentoo.

do LFS for that elitist feeling :p
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hehe i cant tell any speed difference between ubuntu/arch tbh. I have a Q6600 @ 3.33 & 4gb ram. I just like arch as i understand whats going on underneath more then i did with ubuntu, the big plus i don't have to worry about upgrading like ubuntu every 6 months.
 
i can feel the speed difference between Ubuntu and Arch on anything, but even if it wasn't faster i still prefer the Arch philosophy.

you should do a Gentoo install you'll probably like it, i've done a few in the past and it taught me a bit.
 
hhmmm just downloaded the gentoo live cd, its quite old!! I had a server x failed to start error. Sort of fixed it with /etc/X11/xorg.conf & changed nv to vesa. Just dumped me to xterm.

I think the knoppix live cd method might be the easiest in the end, I'm assuming this method will download all the latest kernels etc? So my 9800GTX+ & Xonar D2 will work??
 
Oxy said:
I think the knoppix live cd method might be the easiest in the end, I'm assuming this method will download all the latest kernels etc? So my 9800GTX+ & Xonar D2 will work??
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Id stick with the gentoo live cd (provided your doing a net install and are compiling your own kernel) as the cd is only there to give you access to the net and get all the latest bits (aka newist kernel off portage). :)

Plus what do you need X for?? You get links with the gentoo cd which is more than enough to read the manual on a different terminal on :D
 
pingwing said:
Id stick with the gentoo live cd (provided your doing a net install and are compiling your own kernel) as the cd is only there to give you access to the net and get all the latest bits (aka newist kernel off portage). :)

Plus what do you need X for?? You get links with the gentoo cd which is more than enough to read the manual on a different terminal on :D
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so get the minimal cd and run that, follow handbook = similiar process to arch?

Am I biting off more than I can chew? Kernel fiddling scares me!! hehe
 
The Gentoo Minimal Installation CD, a small, no-nonsense, bootable CD which sole purpose is to boot the system, prepare the networking and continue with the Gentoo installation.

ah so looks like i need this, i.e. like the arch way......???
 
Woah answering your self a bit there... :p

The handbook isnt so much a mess as just rather detailed (its pretty easy to have a read through and pick up on what you need/dont need from it).

On that install guide the one thing i wouldnt do is the "emerge -epv world" about half way through (just after you sync with the portage tree) as it looks like a waste of time re-doing everything that turns up with the stage 3 install (and wasting abit of time)
 
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