Linux gaming - nvidia or ati?

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For those of you who game on linux or perhaps have tried the steam linux client, do you find nvidia or ati cards better?

I'm having an absolute nightmare with ATI drivers on linux, they are just completely unstable regardless of the version. Most guides seem to refer to nvidia drivers, despite Linus himself commenting recently on how poor the support from nvidia has been

Thanks
 
If you want a fully functional driver which you don't care as to whether it's closed source or not, nvidia by a long way. The ATI drivers better than they used to be, but they are still nothing compared to the nvidia drivers.

If you want an open source nvidia driver I don't think the nouveau driver is that great, but I haven't really kept up with the news on it.
 
Linus dislike of (and outburst at) NVIDIA stems from Tegra more so than their dedicated GPUs. The drivers NVIDIA provide are actually very good (I'm using their 670 package on my own 670). The nouveau open source driver is basic to say the least and causes conflicts with the dedicated drivers if you try and install those over the top of the nouveau drivers on distros like Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Kubuntu. I use a ubuntu minimal CD when installing and build from the ground up so I don't bother installing the nouveau driver. Whereas if I install from a full U/X/Kubuntu CD one of the first things I do is disable and apt-get purge the nouveau driver and install the latest dedicated. Thankfully U/X/Kubuntu make installing the latest Linux drivers very easy with, I think the program is called Jockey, that detects and installs non-free drivers.

AMD drivers have worked grand for me in the past as well. But late last year I heard that AMD where planning on dropping linux support for 2, 3 and 4 series cards. Thankfully, I have a 5670 in another machine, so support should be good for a while yet. The open source driver for newer AMD cards is much better than the open source nouveau driver for NVIDIA cards.

But none of that matters if the games you play aren't well supported under wine or are ported poorly. At the minute I play EVE under wine and it was a nightmare to get everything working. Performance is nowhere near as good as it is under Windows and there's sections of the game that won't work (like walking around station quarters when you dock). Steam would be great... if X didn't crash every time I tried to start playing TF2. There's a lot of work to be done. So I won't be "early adopting" the switch to Linux gaming on a permanent basis any time soon.
 
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nvidia by a mile, i bought a 7850 a while back and returned it simply because the fglrx linux drivers were so terrible, i had high hopes when amd bought out ati that they would get usable but alas, i reguarly play league of legends swtor and sc2 under wine, swtor was a real pain, the other two were fairly easy. and native ive been playing shank 2 and quake4 lately. i still fire up windows for the occasional skyrim/anno2070 fest
 
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Does anyone think that the focus Steam is putting on Linux Gaming and in particular Graphics drivers will produce anything better than what exists now? Particularly for AMD.

Cheers, Des.
 
I think steam will focus on open source drivers to start with. NVIDIA and ATI will fall in line once the userbase on steam/linux grows. It would be interesting to learn about steams latest console endeavour. Which graphics chip will they adopt?

The problem people have with ATI is not keeping their kernel in sync with AMD release. The biggest PITA is the binary blob on both ATI and NVIDIA distributions.

I'm chiefly an ATI fan. I'm still running an older beta version of the fglrx blob < 13.1. I don't game too much tbh but opencl is something I run in my everyday work. I have two 7970's which I use in parallel. The one thing that annoys me right now is lack of opencl in crossfire, though crossfire works fine.

NVIDIA is by all means the better option when it comes to drivers on linux. ATI is catching up though
 
Valve have already collaborated with nvidia on the R310+ drivers for the steam beta, valve themselves said that no other solution comes close at the moment.

As for the steambox I think its quite widely know its going to be a Xi3 Piston, which uses an AMD A-series so I would imaging the AMD/ATI situation should start improving soon too. Unless of course they switch it out but it wouldnt make financial sense as nvidia has no integrated solution.
 
apparently nvidia has a lot more support, but im still finding it hard to get it working properly..cant imagine how hard ati would be :|
 
I found installing nvidia drivers plus utils went very well - as long as I'm in X (which I always am anyway). The nvidia configuration tool is pretty good and also helps with dual monitors and things, plus it writes the xorg.conf for you.
 
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