Lisuan enters the fray

[Quartz]

After Nvidia, AMD, Intel and Moore, we now have Lisuan

China Launches Its First 6nm GPUs For Gaming & AI, the Lisuan 7G106 12 GB & 7G105 24 GB, Up To 24 TFLOPs, Faster Than RTX 4060 In Synthetic Benchmarks & Even Runs Black Myth Wukong at 4K High With Playable FPS

China introduced its first 6nm gaming & AI GPUs, the Lisuan Tech 7G106 & 7G105, with up to 24 GB memory, & faster than RTX 4060 performance.

wccftech.com

On a par with the Intel GPUs, performance-wise.

 

[[timko]]

Has 12GB and performs just behind a 4060 in this particular benchmark so hopefully it should be priced somewhere around it.

I like the nice industrial look to the design...

 

[Ilstar57]

As much as the US is trying as hard as possible to slow down China's semiconductor and high-tech industry, particularly in the fields related to AI (such as GPUs), the development of domestic Chinese cards was an inevitability. China is simply too large, rich and powerful of a country to be stopped long-term in its technological and economic development. They've had some datacenter cards for a while now, and it was a matter of time before they entered the mainstream consumer market. I'd expect that now the US is going to try a campaign, reminiscent of the Huawei embargo, to try and stop their proliferation as much as possible. Nevertheless, I do expect cards like these to start slowly becoming mainstream over the next several years, especially in Asia. If delivered at good prices, these can be very attractive to consumers seeking entry-level cards. Geopolitics aside, for consumers more competition is always a win, and this ought to make the low-end of the market more competitive. Of course, it's also a matter of time before they start looking up to more powerful models, too.

 

[AthlonXP1800]

Lisuan Tech Unveils 7G106—China's First 6 Nanometer Gaming GPU

Presenting the new 7G106 gaming GPU. Its creator, Lisuan Tech, is a Chinese deep-tech startup that set out to develop their own gaming chip with the potential to grab a large slice of the PC gaming graphics market, beginning with China. The Chinese gaming industry is built on the philosophy of...

www.techpowerup.com

Lisuan Tech 7G100 chips are manufactured on TSMC N6 process but it lacked hardware ray-tracing. Maybe next generation Lisuan 7G200 will have hardware ray-tracing.

 

[Emlyn_Dewar]

Will be interesting to see how these go. Chances of having decent drivers within a year of launch are surely non-existent.
MooreThreads are still releasing regular drivers for their cards, and apparently are in a much better state than launch, but it took a long time.

Definitely interested in picking one of the entry level cards up to play around with, if they are priced well.

 

[arknor]

Lisuan Tech 7G100 chips are manufactured on TSMC N6 process but it lacked hardware ray-tracing. Maybe next generation Lisuan 7G200 will have hardware ray-tracing.

if tsmc make them they probably have to stay weak, same as nvidia etc cant sell high end gpus in china.

No doubt TSMC wouldnt be allowed to make anything good for them.

 

[Ilstar57]

if tsmc make them they probably have to stay weak, same as nvidia etc cant sell high end gpus in china.

No doubt TSMC wouldnt be allowed to make anything good for them.

Well, TSMC falls outside US jurisdiction (though they can still be influenced in other ways).

 

[arknor]

Well, TSMC falls outside US jurisdiction (though they can still be influenced in other ways).

they already are influencing them

TSMC struggles to block chip exports to China | Digital Watch Observatory

The world’s largest contract chipmaker says its limited visibility into end-users makes it difficult to prevent semiconductors from reaching US-sanctioned companies like Huawei.

dig.watch

so lisuan will likely be on the list soon if they already aren;t.

 

[AthlonXP1800]

they already are influencing them

TSMC struggles to block chip exports to China | Digital Watch Observatory

The world’s largest contract chipmaker says its limited visibility into end-users makes it difficult to prevent semiconductors from reaching US-sanctioned companies like Huawei.

dig.watch

so lisuan will likely be on the list soon if they already aren;t.

https://www.bis.gov/regulations/ear/744#supplement-4-744

I checked the list, Lisuan Tech is not on the list yet and Moore Threads is on the list.

Another High-End Chinese GPU Emerges Online — Moore Threads MTT S90 Reportedly Outperforms NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 With Solid Gaming Performance

China's GPU industry has been making massive strides in recent days, and now, the Moore Threads S90 gaming GPU has been tested.

wccftech.com

Moore Threads launched new high end graphic card MTT S90 outperformed RTX 4060 but no details on spec, it not listed on TECHPOWERUP GPU database yet.

 

[Emlyn_Dewar]

Well, TSMC falls outside US jurisdiction (though they can still be influenced in other ways).

It'd be as well just be a US owned company at this stage. They are like a well trained dog. The US gives the command, and TSMC follows it.

 

[Grim5]

Has 12GB and performs just behind a 4060 in this particular benchmark so hopefully it should be priced somewhere around it.

I like the nice industrial look to the design...

What, no game benchmarks? Smells me another Moore with no drivers, where they claim decent performance and then you boot up cyberpunk and find out it runs like a GTX760

 

[Emlyn_Dewar]

The Moore cards are definitely in a much better place than they were at launch. Price drops and frequent driver releases.

Of course the Lisuan will launch with extreme driver woes. It's difficult. Look at the Intel Arc launch driver...

 

[varkanoid]

Definitely interested in picking one of the entry level cards up to play around with, if they are priced well.

These are for the APAC market though arent they so only way UK would get them is through grey imports probably meaning a price hike.

 

[Emlyn_Dewar]

I’m in China, so shouldn’t be difficult to get.