Log Burner in Log Cabin?

[snappyfish]

If I was to have a log burner installed in my log cabin which is 5.5x4 (20m2 inside) Do I need to notify anyone for this?

 

[snappyfish]

i doubt you would be allowed tbh. having a real fire in a wooden structure would probably be against regulations.

you would likely need to create a concrete base and a surround for the back of it, etc. i have no idea but i imagine it wouldn't be allowed.

It is allowed, just wondering who notifies who? Does anyone need to come and check?

 

[snappyfish]

You can yes, you just need to get it installed by a HETAS engineer really, and just make sure you fit the correct backing plates

ok, do building regulations come and look?

 

[snappyfish]

Don't believe so, I only know of one person who had it done and they didn't as far as I'm aware.


e; I'm wrong, building control need to be notified from a quick google.

Did you read that somewhere? Got a link

 

[snappyfish]

I would check but other than garages most garden buildings do not tend to come under building regulations unless they are particularly large or need planning permission. HETAS I think only applies to lived in buildings so may not apply yo a log cabin. Certainly I’m not intending to get one HETAS installed in my workshop.

ok, well I have a cabin installed which is 5.5x4 (inside roughly 20m2) was told no planning needed if within 2m of boundary if no higher than 2.5m.

But I've now been told building regs need to check as it's over 15m2 and made of wood as it's within 2m of the boundary.

so last thing I want to do is have someone come and check about log burner.

 

[snappyfish]

Use a certified installer.

If it's small consider a narrow boat burner but the fuel will have to be suitably sized as well so you might get annoyed chopping logs into tiny pieces.

Will definitely go down correct installation route.

Seen this which accepts 300mm logs.

"The V2 (2kw) Modern wood burning stove is a large capacity 2KW wood burning stove ideal for small rooms, conservatories, narrow boats, conservatories and out-buildings up to 30 cubic meters. Ideal for rooms and areas where only a small amount of heat is required without compromising the large glass window and perfect view of the fire. The V2 also has a good size burn chamber enabling a 300mm log to be easily loaded into the 2kw firebox."

Spoiler: Open me

Just a little worried building regs might come check, and from what I now know I may be too close to my boundary for a 20m2 building.

 

[snappyfish]

ok, so this is correct below then, I'm amazed that none of the cabin company's mentioned this when I looked at the size, or the builder when he put the concrete slab in But then they are just taken money, not helping me!

There does seem to be a few up in and around the area which has not caused a problem.

I guess not arousing any interest then is a good thing. Luckily the boundary it is close to is a concrete car garage with is attached to a house, so not likes it right up against a living area. The one side boundary is a fence and behind that is a 16ft drive for the other house.

So am I correct in thinking if it's been there for two years since completion they cant moan about it?

Hmm... Don't want to take this down!

https://www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200130/common_projects/43/outbuildings/2

Is building regulations approval needed for an outbuilding?

If you want to put up small detached buildings such as a garden shed or summerhouse in your garden, building regulations will not normally apply if the floor area of the building is less than 15 square metres and contains NO sleeping accommodation.

If the floor area of the building is between 15 square metres and 30 square metres, you will not normally be required to apply for building regulations approval providing that the building contains NO sleeping accommodation and is either at least one metre from any boundary or it is constructed of substantially non-combustible materials.

 

[snappyfish]

If its any consolation, all of my building reg's knowledge is from AFTER mine was built too, and I even got someone in to make and submit the Planning Permission and listed building consent docs on my behalf! Neither that person or the manufacturer suggest it to me. I was so focused on getting planning permission and listed building consent approval at the time I couldnt see the wood from the trees; just a mention of building reg's check could have stopped a lot of sleepless nights.


In the end, I sent an email to the council describing my home office/garden shed hypothetically. I got a response back a few days later saying that none would apply if I used a qualified electrician.


I have to admit, it’s very therapeutic talking about it as I still don’t think im 100% covered even with their response.

Reading the bit in bold, it does sound like you will need building reg's approval unfortunately. When was it built?

Mine was built in July this year.

 

[snappyfish]

Take a look in the building regs under the 'general' section at the start. It mentions things which don't require it. As you've quoted, under 30m2 and at least a metre away from the boundary you should be fine (these log cabin companies operate on this sort of basis although there are some exceptions) As you're introducing a heating source (wood burner) you will need to adhere to the regulations and get a certificate from your installer. Distances away from combustible materials for you hearth, stove and flue all need to be adhered to. If you contact the council about it they will no doubt say you need a building warrant in place.

It's less than 1m to my boundary. For electrics and log burner I will go down the correct routes. Just amazed that every cabin company mentioned the 2.5m height rule religiously but nothing else.

 

[snappyfish]

It's not a log cabin, it's a shed with double glazing ;p

Quite right you are