Long time no build - help needed

Dimitris

Dimitris

Dimitris

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Hi guys,

I used to build and oc using mach II few years ago but have been using a laptop for the last few and am trying to build a pc that will allow me to play all games and literally watch movies etc.

I have come up with a few things below but somehow I'm not sure of the combo. I obviously oc but unfortunately don't know what I should buy. Don't think i can afford a I7 right now so...

Btw, below is too expensive and don't know what I can do to bring it right down. Thanks for any suggestions

OcUK Value Hanns-G HG281DP 28" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Black £244.99
(£287.86)

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 LGA775 'Yorkfield' 2.83GHz 12MB-cache (1333FSB) Processor - OEM £189.99
(£223.24)

HIS ATI Radeon HD 4870 1024MB GDDR5 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express) - Retail £187.99
(£220.89)

Gigabyte GA-X48-DQ6 Intel X48 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard £179.99
(£211.49)

Tagan TG1100-U33 1100w 2-Force II PSU £129.99
(£152.74)

Western Digital VelociRaptor 150GB 10000RPM SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (WD1500HLFS) £125.99
(£148.04)

Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium - Fatal1ty Professional Series 7.1 Sound Card (70SB088600000) £79.99
(£93.99)

GeIL 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-8500C5 1066MHz Black Dragon EVO ONE DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (GE24GB1066C5DC) £79.99
(£93.99)

Antec 900 Nine Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case - Black (No PSU) £64.99
(£76.36)

Thermalright TRUE Black 120 CPU Cooler (Socket AM2/LGA775) £39.99
(£46.99)

LG GH20NS10 20x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM £12.99
(£15.26)
 
what is your budget

do you really need a seperate sound card?

could change the ram to corsair / ocz which is almost half the price.

change the hdd to a samsung spinpoint and save a lot more.

possibly change to a wolfdale cpu?
 
Hi, I plan to run it on raid 0.

Its been a long time, not sure what wolfdale is tbh.

Well, currently without speakers, its about 1700 inc vat.

I would preferably have all with speakers for less than 1500 inc vat.
 
Do you really need an X48 based motherboard? You could half the costs with a P45 based motherboard and it will offer most of the features.

The PSU is rather overkill, a good 600w PSU will easily handle the system as is.

Raptors are very expensive for the performance they offer so the suggestion of an F1 drive instead might be a good one or just another 7200rpm drive.

The CPU cooler is expensive considering that it doesn't actually come with a fan, the Tuniq Tower or Noctua NH-U12P are both very capable units and cheaper as well.
 
Thanks for the advice, would you think this mobo would be ok?

Asus Maximus Extreme Intel X38 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard

Also, with this ram, would it be ok to go for ddr 3 ram or useless?

And when you say good 600, anything you advise?

thanks again
 
i wouldnt bother with ddr3 if your not using the i7 chips. Mobo suggestion asus p5q-e (125 quid) or the deluxe version, abit more pricey, (140?) great mobo's and oc very well! :)
 
Thing is I might be able to get this mobo and cpu from the members section and wonderered if this was a good combo.

As for ddr 3? so its no use without the i7?

Thanks
 
DDR3 will work without i7 but I assume the newer chips make better use of the higher speeds available (although looser timings normally). The X38 is a decent chipset but unless you were getting that motherboard for quite a bit less than the £125 of a reasonable P45 based motherboard I don't think I'd bother - the main benefit is the ability to Crossfire and unless you are going to do that it isn't that much better.

PSU wise the Corsair HX 620w, the BeQuiet Dark Power Pro 650w or the PC Power and Cooling Silencer 610w (not modular but very good) are all worth looking into and come in at ~£50-£80 cheaper than the Tagan.
 
You (don't) have to have the i7 to go with a DDR3 board,End of the day ddr3 is the new cutting edge technology. "Yes it's a lot more expensive than ddr2,But if your willing to pay for it you might as well do it now rather than have your computer parts out of date when ddr3 really takes over.
(It's like vista...it's inevitable if you want the best) :P

The Asus P5Q3 Deluxe @ Wifi-N Intel P45 is a really good board and i deffo recommend it :) The Pro is a good board too :)

The chip i have in the deluxe board atm is :

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 LGA775 'Wolfdale' 3.16GHz (1333FSB) - Retail

But soon as crimbo is out the way i'm giving that chip to my son and putting this in :

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 LGA775 'Yorkfield' 2.83GHz 12MB-cache (1333FSB)

Processor - Retail

And yes the Corsair HX 620w is all well and good if you want the use of the modular cables.

I recommend the : Corsair TX 750W ATX2.2 SLI Compliant PSU

Just for the simple fact,If you wanna throw an extra G-Card in your system at a later date,You'll have the right power to do so :)

The G-Card you have chose though is spot on m8,It's an amazing card :)

Plus i gotta agree with "semi-pro waster" and i aslo recommend the samsung
F1 section for your HD ,The 640gb is a very fast drive:)
 
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...P45 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard

This is the board to go for, will still give you crossfire ability and plenty of overclocking options for whatever CPU you decide to go for. If you go for wolfdale, choose the E8400, this will overclock very well, most can reach 4.0ghz with a decent cooler, pair it with the tuniq tower or the noctua and your onto a winner there.

I'd stick with a decent 4gb set of DDR2 ram, get some 8500, much cheaper than DDR3

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...al Channel Platinum Series DDR2 (OCZ2P10664GK)

I'd recommend a modular PSU aswell, the corsair 620W will be more than enough to run this setup, that 1100W tagan is overkill, something that powerful is only needed in extreme SLi computers.
 
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