Looking for a new gaming machine... please spec

Brendon20uk

Brendon20uk

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Hey all,

I'm new to the forum, but not new to OC. Its been about 8years since the last time I built a PC and looking at new tech like the M.2 is amazing!

Here is my spec pc and looking to spend £2500-£3500. This will primarily be used for a lot of FPS gaming, some photoshop, and graphics, as well as self employment day to day tasks. While gaming it would be nice to able to utilise all settings and play without limitations. Im not looking to too enthusiast or bother about benchmarking, but do care about highest settings for about any application or game I use.

PG279Q ROG Swift 27" 2560x1440 IPS G-Sync 165Hz Gaming Widescreen LED Monitor - Black/Red
In-Win 509 Design Full Tower Tempered Glass Case - Black/Red
Asus ROG Maximus IX Hero Intel Z270 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard
EVGA SuperNova P2 850W '80 Plus Platinum' Modular Power Supply
Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz (Kaby Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - Retail
Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (4x4GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHz Quad Channel Kit
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 G1 Gaming 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
Samsung 960 EVO Polaris 250GB M.2 2280 PCI-e 3.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive
WD Black 2TB 7200rpm SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache HDD
Asus Xonar Essence STX PCI-E Sound Card

Total - £2,797.82

Monitor - The only issue is whether to go TN or IPS. Is G-SYNC worth it? and how 165hz will help along side the chosen GPU. Is it better to find a defferent monitor and go 4K? (Couldnt find any on OC thats both 4K and 165hz).
Case - Love the colour and reviews pull me more towards a In'Win case then Primoo or other.
Motherboard - Although theres higher priced boards, I believe the IX Hero is more then capable for my needs.
Power Supply - Used a website that checks for overall power consumption that reaches 570w with the above but feel either 750w or 850w is sufficient. Not sure whether to go P2 or T2 for the extra money or other?
Processor - well 7700k is pretty much the best until Vega?
Memory - Research shows that quad channel runs better then dual channel and that 16gb is enough (double then my GPU)
Graphics - I chosed the 1060 GTX but please recommend me a 1070 or if its worth going for the 1080?
SSD - Samsung 850 EVO says it all. Not worth going PRO for my type of usage.
HDD - WD Black 2TB sounds like a great drive. Willing to go for a Seagate to cut abit of cost.
Sound Card - Heard much about EMI which is persuading me to use DAC but is pretty expensive and may be out of my budget.

Also im willing to go water cooling if its worth the hassle and cost, either recommend me a good air cooling setup...

Please let me know your thoughts. I strongly believe a better GPU, perhaps a different monitor for 4K, and my change memory to Vengeance to save some cost, same with the WD black to a Seagate.

Thanks for your help :) :) :)
 
HI and welcome.

I am not sure Intel is the way to go at the moment as AMD now have something competitive with Ryzen and the current Z270+7700K will soon be replaced.

There are also somethings I see wrong with your spec such as,

• GTX1060 is not strong enough for a 1440P resolution screen.
• The WD black HDD is not worth it as you have a m.2 SSD for the speedy stuff.
• The RAM is expensive but nice, there are cheaper kits available.
• The PSU is OTT for a GTX1060 even if you did SLI, a 750W PSU would run two GFX cards easily even if they were GTX1080Tis.
 
Thanks for your reply.

I had a feeling the 1060 wouldnt quite be sufficient hence asking for a suitable replacement like the 1070 if it can handle higher res monitors or the 1080. WD black only because many people have preference this HDD but your right a seagate of the WD blue 1TB could do the job. The PSU i could go for the 750w but incase of changes in tech in future thought maybe a 850w would last quite some time incase upgrades require more and more power to run.

I still have about £800 spare as my max budget but dont want to go OTT but to keep things nice and steady.

Is it with going SLI as I though maybe sticking with 1 GPU is enough or does G-SYNC to work properly a SLI configuration is needed?

I think the RAM choice is good as prefer to stick with a great brand but I did chose Vengeance as an idea incase of cost.

To be fair I havent looked to much in to the Ryzen and AMD but Ive always preferred Intel for some reason ever since dual core first came out and also looking to at the GPU table on another website (that shows the history of each Geforce and Radeon) currently Geforce are ahead by 4-6 cards.

Unless theres a good reason why Rysen will be a better option then Intel, I cant see myself changing my mind. Even if Ryzen so happens to beat the Z270's in benchmarking will it beat or come close to the x299's. The AMD's 580 are too far behind Intel's 7700K.

I feel if AMD does beat all that of Intel, surely in no time Intel will respond with a better option to their 7700k's before AMD improves there Ryzen and so fourth.

Just my thoughts.
 
I'm not that savvy with the new tech these days, but maybe my arguements against AMD is unfair or maybe im too gullible with sticking with Intel. But appreciate the heads up about AMD and may look research more in to the ryzen's and the vega.
 
Hi a single 1070 or 1080 will run 1440P all day long (mine does).

Reason for Ryzen vs Intel equivalent rpiced CPU,

1) more cores, the 7700K is 4cores+HT = 8 threads, the Ryzen 1700X for example is 8cores+HT = 16 threads.

2) Newer socket hopefully lasts longer.

3) Games are getting updates that are improving Ryzen performance (not that it was slow anyway) thus logically it will beat a i7 7700K when games+programs get more complicated make use of the extra cores.

4) At the weekend I swapped out a 7700K for a 1800X ryzen, dont notice any negative gaming impact at all.


Heres is an example Ryzen build,

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £2,431.96
(includes shipping: £23.10)






And here is a white one with a 1080Ti,

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £2,384.12
(includes shipping: £15.30)



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I like the fact Ryzen has more cores/threads therefore much faster multi core speeds compared to the 7700k. However, the benchmarking stats suggest the 7700k's seem to tick a lot more boxes and are higher graded (1st place) then the Ryzen (9th place). Im guessing multi core speeds are much better utilized in games etc then single and quad cores speeds as this where Ryzen out performs their rival.

I also like the fact 1800x are half the price of the 6900k's (both with 16 threads).

Still cant understand how the benchmarking stats suggest the 6900k's are better then the 7700k's (due to 16 threads over 8) and that both beat the 1800x (16 threads), hows that work?

Decisions Decisions.

P.S if your referring to the Project Scorpio Xbox.... thats already in the bag :)
 
Ryzen all the way IMO. 7700k you're looking at a dead end platform. With AM4 and Ryzen, you've got a few years of updates with new mobos and cpus. There is little difference between the 7700k and overclocked Ryzen CPUs in gaming. In all other tasks, the Ryzen comfortably wins.
 
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