looking for an upgrade not sure what i want

CONSOLE_BUTCHER · 24 Nov 2015 at 19:03

at the minute I have an i5 4690k my gpu Is an xfx r9 390x and I have 8gb of memory. the reason im looking to upgrade is because I got ACS today and the game has shutdown a couple of times because my rig said im low on memory (it actually conveyed the words through my speakers :O... ).

am I being bottle necked by the memory or cpu ? thinking of buying an i7 and 16gb of memory.

do you guys think I need to? if so what would you recommend?

koolpc · 24 Nov 2015 at 19:06

I would say none! Cant see how you are bottlenecked with those specs?

CONSOLE_BUTCHER · 24 Nov 2015 at 19:08

i was thinking it was touch and go with that subject myself, but the game has still been shutdown 3/4 times due to " low memory "

koolpc · 24 Nov 2015 at 19:22

Could it be 8GB not enough?

CONSOLE_BUTCHER · 24 Nov 2015 at 19:32

maybe, i will have to look at my options for more memory.

theaterix · 24 Nov 2015 at 19:42

Couldnt it mean actual RAM not GPU memory? Bearing in mind you only have 8gb..

ukxenon · 24 Nov 2015 at 22:50

5820k 16 or 32 gig ddr4 ......you will not miss a beat in games

n14hta · 24 Nov 2015 at 22:52

Is AC Syndicate poorly optimized? how do other games run, you have a pretty decent spec.

Cern · 24 Nov 2015 at 23:05

Your spec looks pretty decent. Sounds like the game has a memory leak. It's a relatively new game and such a bug is not uncommon. If you aren't having problems with any other games I would hold off of any upgrades and wait and see if ACS gets patched.

CONSOLE_BUTCHER · 24 Nov 2015 at 23:59

n14hta said:
Is AC Syndicate poorly optimized? how do other games run, you have a pretty decent spec.

Cern said:
Your spec looks pretty decent. Sounds like the game has a memory leak. It's a relatively new game and such a bug is not uncommon. If you aren't having problems with any other games I would hold off of any upgrades and wait and see if ACS gets patched.

think it is poorly optimized, turned the settings to very high and it didn't happen again. other games work fine with the odd framerate drop/ slow motion, been thinking of upgrading again to put some finishing touches on it to get rid of the drops altogether.

Cern · 25 Nov 2015 at 00:16

CONSOLE_BUTCHER said:
think it is poorly optimized, turned the settings to very high and it didn't happen again. other games work fine with the odd framerate drop/ slow motion, been thinking of upgrading again to put some finishing touches on it to get rid of the drops altogether.

Upgrading to 16GB RAM can't hurt, memory prices are in a good place at the moment. Also consider a SSD (if you don't already have one). Whilst this won't improve your framerates it does make things smoother in any game which needs to load textures, maps, zones etc on the fly. Not sure if upgrading from the i5-4690k to an i7 will give you much extra, the 4690k should be mor than capable of handling any current game at 1080p.

joeyjojo · 25 Nov 2015 at 08:20

If you want to get to the bottom of this, monitor your GPU memory and system memory while in game. Something like MSI Afterburner should do. Then you'll see if one or both are getting close to max.

As above I wouldn't start buying until you know what's causing the crashes.

~>Dg<~ · 25 Nov 2015 at 09:44

will be memory leak from ***** game.

you could just upgrade your ram to 16gb.all rest is fine.

CONSOLE_BUTCHER · 25 Nov 2015 at 10:14

joeyjojo said:
If you want to get to the bottom of this, monitor your GPU memory and system memory while in game. Something like MSI Afterburner should do. Then you'll see if one or both are getting close to max.

As above I wouldn't start buying until you know what's causing the crashes.

I think I will use the performance tab of windows task manager with my monitors set to " extend these displays ".

~>Dg<~ said:
will be memory leak from ***** game.

you could just upgrade your ram to 16gb.all rest is fine.

I just made a thread in bundle/system support to see how long is left on my warranty, don't want to send my rig back to have just ram fitted. got till November next year lol and I feel ok with being able to re-do my water cooling loop if I had to.

rtho782 · 25 Nov 2015 at 10:21

You have to send it back to have RAM fitted? That's crazy. If a component went faulty and they blamed it on you fitting RAM, I'd take the seller to court personally/

If it says you're out of RAM, you're probably out of RAM

Do you have your pagefile disabled or set to a small size? Do you have other stuff running while playing? You can grab another 8GB ram for less than you paid for the game...

CONSOLE_BUTCHER · 25 Nov 2015 at 10:29

rtho782 said:
You have to send it back to have RAM fitted? That's crazy. If a component went faulty and they blamed it on you fitting RAM, I'd take the seller to court personally/

If it says you're out of RAM, you're probably out of RAM

Do you have your pagefile disabled or set to a small size? Do you have other stuff running while playing? You can grab another 8GB ram for less than you paid for the game...

the warranty mainly concerns the core parts of a system ... ram , mobo, psu , gpu and cpu. the rest is all systems go if you can do it.

CONSOLE_BUTCHER · 25 Nov 2015 at 11:56

joeyjojo said:
If you want to get to the bottom of this, monitor your GPU memory and system memory while in game. Something like MSI Afterburner should do. Then you'll see if one or both are getting close to max.

As above I wouldn't start buying until you know what's causing the crashes.

it happened again, for the purpose of monitoring the memory usage for both the ram and cpu I set it back to ultra and had my dual screen set up, occasionally glancing at the performance tab of task manager.

the cpu was a lowest of 23% , a highest of about 80% and average of 50-70%.

ram clocked in at about 30% on game start up and slowly climbed up until I heard the sound notification for the low memory message, at the time task manager said it was 93% on the ram usage. just bought 16gb of this ... https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...00c10-2400mhz-dual-channel-kit-my-054-tg.html

turns out im ok to fit ram myself

so until the new ram is in I will have to suffer with " very high " settings (lol)

Cern · 25 Nov 2015 at 13:44

CONSOLE_BUTCHER said:
it happened again, for the purpose of monitoring the memory usage for both the ram and cpu I set it back to ultra and had my dual screen set up, occasionally glancing at the performance tab of task manager.

the cpu was a lowest of 23% , a highest of about 80% and average of 50-70%.

ram clocked in at about 30% on game start up and slowly climbed up until I heard the sound notification for the low memory message, at the time task manager said it was 93% on the ram usage. just bought 16gb of this ... https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...00c10-2400mhz-dual-channel-kit-my-054-tg.html

turns out im ok to fit ram myself

so until the new ram is in I will have to suffer with " very high " settings (lol)

This has all the symptoms of a memory leak. Hopefully it'll get patched soon.

The 16GB RAM you've bought is still a good move, it can only help your system. Whilst it won't cure the memory leak it might at least delay the point at which you run out of memory to something more bearable.

5960xNvidiaGamer · 25 Nov 2015 at 14:04

Your specs should be fine, I see no bottleneck there.

CONSOLE_BUTCHER · 26 Nov 2015 at 15:10

Cern said:
This has all the symptoms of a memory leak. Hopefully it'll get patched soon.

The 16GB RAM you've bought is still a good move, it can only help your system. Whilst it won't cure the memory leak it might at least delay the point at which you run out of memory to something more bearable.

the extra ram has greatly improved the play time on ultra but the leak will still cause it to close because of low memory at some point. also found that quitting to main menu resets the leak so I can gain more time. just need to keep monitoring and doing that until the Richard heads patch it.