Looking to build a new itx rig as powerful or better the previous system but much smaller itx vs eatx.

Tetras said:
12th gen is safe to buy, but I wouldn't buy a 14th gen CPU anymore, not after the degradation issues. The 14600K should be less impacted than the i7/i9, but I still wouldn't buy one.

The 245K and 265K were heavily discounted awhile back, so if I was determined to go Intel, that's what I'd buy instead.

AM5 has hopefully got a better upgrade path than any of the current Intel sockets.
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I see im not aware of these issues so thankyou for the advice. I'd definitely prefer to go intel so ill go with the 245k then as its a similar price, is newer and I really want to try the latest components.

So I know im now looking for a 1851 MB, I know I want to go pcie5 and ddr 5 and have integrated graphics. Any suggestions?
 
nb25 said:
I see im not aware of these issues so thankyou for the advice. I'd definitely prefer to go intel so ill go with the 245k then as its a similar price, is newer and I really want to try the latest components.

So I know im now looking for a 1851 MB, I know I want to go pcie5 and ddr 5 and have integrated graphics. Any suggestions?
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They're not discounted at the moment, maybe for black friday they will be.

OCUK have a bundle deal on a Z890 board and a 265K that's not bad, otherwise I'd look for an entry Z890 board. B860 is also fine (minus overclocking). I don't think Core Ultra is selling that well (early reviews weren't great), so the CPUs/boards go on offer a lot.

Main features to consider: what speed of LAN do you want, number/speed of M.2 slots and USB ports (including Type-C), WIFI6 or WIFI7, USB4/Thunderbolt (or not), number of sound jacks/presence of SPDIF and if you're going integrated: if it has HDMI, DP.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £633.97 (includes delivery: £7.99)​
 
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Tetras said:
They're not discounted at the moment, maybe for black friday they will be.

OCUK have a bundle deal on a Z890 board and a 265K that's not bad, otherwise I'd look for an entry Z890 board. B860 is also fine (minus overclocking). I don't think Core Ultra is selling that well (early reviews weren't great), so the CPUs/boards go on offer a lot.

Main features to consider: what speed of LAN do you want, number/speed of M.2 slots and USB ports (including Type-C), WIFI6 or WIFI7, USB4/Thunderbolt (or not), number of sound jacks/presence of SPDIF and if you're going integrated: if it has HDMI, DP.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £633.97 (includes delivery: £7.99)​
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I dont think I'd go for that bundle as its not available now and I dont see the need for the extra power. A 245k should be plenty for me.

Plus there both a atx boards, im looking at m-ATX. As for the other questions ill have to do some thinking id definitely prefer display port and im not going to overclock so B860 boards should be fine for me.

I would also like to have wifi on the board.
 
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here you go sorry it's not intel/nvidia, but it's a great option for the money, and it will last longer too, being AM5:
My basket at OcUK:

Total: £928.90 (includes delivery: £0.00)​
just needs your existing PSU, the CPU has an IGPU, but the sparkle ARC is really good value atm, I've triple checked that it will fit, and the motherboard has the correct ARGB header for the cooler's RGB
 
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nb25 said:
I dont think I'd go for that bundle as its not available now and I dont see the need for the extra power.
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Fair enough, but considering that you come from a HEDT PC which was fairly high-end at the time, are you sure? The 265K is often the best priced/performer from their range, though I'm not saying the 245K is bad.

nb25 said:
Plus there both a atx boards, im looking at m-ATX. As for the other questions ill have to do some thinking id definitely prefer display port and im not going to overclock so B860 boards should be fine for me.

I would also like to have wifi on the board.
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Hmm. There's several MATX options available, but the VRM tends to be poor on these (not sure why). That shouldn't be an issue with the 245K, but it might be if you went for a mega CPU upgrade in the future.

This one has reasonable specs for the money:
- 4 memory slots
- HDMI & DP on rear
- 3x M.2 slots (1 slot is 2 lane) & 4x SATA
- 1x TB port on rear
- 5Gb LAN (Intel)
- WIFI7 & BT
- 1x Type-C on rear (plus the TB port)
- 2x USB 2.0 (rear)
- 3x USB 3.x (rear)
- 3x sound jacks

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £157.98 (includes delivery: £7.99)​
 
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Tetras said:
Fair enough, but considering that you come from a HEDT PC which was fairly high-end at the time, are you sure? The 265K is often the best priced/performer from their range, though I'm not saying the 245K is bad.


Hmm. There's several MATX options available, but the VRM tends to be poor on these (not sure why). That shouldn't be an issue with the 245K, but it might be if you went for a mega CPU upgrade in the future.

This one has reasonable specs for the money:
- 4 memory slots
- HDMI & DP on rear
- 3x M.2 slots (1 slot is 2 lane) & 4x SATA
- 1x TB port on rear
- 5Gb LAN (Intel)
- WIFI7 & BT
- 1x Type-C on rear (plus the TB port)
- 2x USB 2.0 (rear)
- 3x USB 3.x (rear)
- 3x sound jacks

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £157.98 (includes delivery: £7.99)​
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Yes this motherboard seams the best fit for me. It also is the only one that ticks all the boxes but also has watercooling support.

So I just need some DDR5 ram and a CPU cooling. I'll be looking for a 16gb kit as I think this is enough for me.
 
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nb25 said:
Yes this motherboard seams the best fit for me. It also is the only one that ticks all the boxes but also has watercooling support.
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There's a Z890M board that is just a tenner more, though I'm not sure how it compares. Worth looking at though.

nb25 said:
So I just need some DDR5 ram and a CPU cooling. I'll be looking for a 16gb kit as I think this is enough for me.
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I can't recommend you buy 16GB in 2025. 8GB sticks are going to be obsolete in a few years and DDR5 has been awkward (50/50, at best) with running 4 sticks since release.
 
nb25 said:
I see im not aware of these issues so thankyou for the advice. I'd definitely prefer to go intel so ill go with the 245k then as its a similar price, is newer and I really want to try the latest components.

So I know im now looking for a 1851 MB, I know I want to go pcie5 and ddr 5 and have integrated graphics. Any suggestions?
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Intels desktop products are in the doldrums and have been for years. AMD are just in different league by comparison.
 
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