Lumbar Disc Replacement - Any experience?

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So I have a friend whos got an absolutely destroyed lumbar disc, so the point that surgery has been offered.

Thing is, they are terrified of the idea of surgery, so hoping that anyone who has either had a disc replacement or fusion here can share their experiences?

Was it worth it? How long was your recovery? Would you do it again? etc.

Cheers :)
 
Any reason he went for fusion over replacement?

Wasnt an option at the time (this was 30 years ago). So considering how much tech has advanced and hes been pain free for 30 years id say its a good start!

For reference he was hit by a car.
 
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I wish they would do the two I have but the vertebrae on either side of them are crumbling. I have had a disc replaced in my neck back in 2016. I had pins and needles in my fingers and a loss of feeling in my touch leading to me dropping things often. On top of that I had a burning sensation in my upper arm, neck pain which gave me nausea and terrible headaches. They sent me for a scan and found that a disc had disintegrated and pushed against my nerves so offered me a op which I jumped at. It involved removing the destroyed disc, "sanding" the vertebrae on either side as it had rough edges from wearing against each other then inserting a replacement disc which looked like a hockey puck then reinforcing the joint with a titanium plate. I woke up after the op and all symptoms had gone, it was a life changer. Recovery was quoted as a couple of months but it was more or less instant and I was working under the car just two weeks after the op. Your friend should take the offer and get it done, it really is a game changer and I know I would jump at the chance if I was offered it.

Unfortunately it would appear that another disc has failed further up in my neck because I have had similar symptoms for the past couple of months and today was particularly bad with a terrible headache that reduced me to lying down all afternoon. I have no confidence in it being sorted anytime in the next couple of years because I have been waiting over three years for a double knee replacement and they sent me for a MRI on my knees back on Feb 1st and I am still waiting for a follow up with the consultant who currently has a waiting list of 86 weeks!! This is the price of living in the not fit for purpose NHS Grampian catchment area!!
 
So I have a friend whos got an absolutely destroyed lumbar disc, so the point that surgery has been offered.

Thing is, they are terrified of the idea of surgery, so hoping that anyone who has either had a disc replacement or fusion here can share their experiences?

Was it worth it? How long was your recovery? Would you do it again? etc.

Cheers :)
Presumably that's from trauma rather than something degenerative over the years?

My problem is an extruded disc hernia in which the "gel" has broken out and is pushing against the nerves & it's debilitating. I'm starting intensive physio backed up with epidural painkillers to try to fix it. Surgery otherwise.

Hope your mate is fixed up soon & for the record, I know of several people who have had lumbar surgery and all have reported a 100% success rate.
 
My late uncle was offered this after years of being a carpet fitter and back issues, they didn't tell him until the day he went into the hospital for surgery that it could result in paralysis.

It's anecdotal and of course extremely rare but he walked out, and I don't really blame him.

I'd make sure your friend is fully aware of the risks and how rare they are before going in as the shock might put him off for life, I can fully understand why someone might evacuate the building in that scenario.
 
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I slipped a lumbar disc Spring 2024 whilst doing a furniture move. The pain afterwards was horrific, mixed with sciatica and pins and needles in my right leg.

Fortunately through work (Military) I was placed on their fast track system and sent private, I had MRI at a private hospital, 4 weeks later I was seeing the surgeon who recommended surgery due to the damage that had been caused.

3 weeks later I was under his knife for a disectomy. Yes it was private but the whole experience was over and done with in 24 hours and I was discharged with a lot of strong painkillers.

2 months off work and then went back slowly seeing the physios and was building myself back up, things were going really really well and in February this year I was even back gentle jogging on the treadmill.

However later on in February it slipped again, my little lad fell over wanted help getting up. I bent over and I felt it right away with a jolt.

Another MRI and surgeon visit later, he said it has slipped but nowhere near as bad as last year. So he recommended physio for recovery, which I've been doing since. The recovery has been slow and it has been frustrating, but I know it will be worth it in the end.

The surgeon said after my first MRI that one of my lumbar vertebrae had formed strangely whilst I was in the womb and this was always going to happen. I was basically a ticking time bomb.

He said I was too young for fusion (I'm 37) and he also didnt really want to operate again as the scar tissue in the area makes it more difficult.

Sure the last 18 months has made me feel really really old and it's been a learning experience. But there's always light at the end of the tunnel.
 
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I had a slipped disc about 2 and a half years ago. Similar thing I was bending down lifting some alloy wheels I was painting in my garage and just felt the pain straight away. It was only a mild slip in the end but the pain was that bad that I fainted when trying to stand up just to go to the toilet. Ended up having diazepam which allowed me to walk again but I had numbness in my leg for months after. Had some minor bulging in my lower back.

Physiotherapy is what helped me in the end. I cycle about 40-50 miles a week now. I am fitter now at nearly 40 than what I was at 30. My body feels great as are all my markers.

I see so many horror stories of celebs having back surgery that has gone wrong. (Hulk Hogan and Ozzy Osbourne) and they have the money for the best surgeons. That I would try all the options first unless surgery is no other option.
 
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My late uncle was offered this after years of being a carpet fitter and back issues, they didn't tell him until the day he went into the hospital for surgery that it could result in paralysis.

It's anecdotal and of course extremely rare but he walked out, and I don't really blame him.

I'd make sure your friend is fully aware of the risks and how rare they are before going in as the shock might put him off for life, I can fully understand why someone might evacuate the building in that scenario.
I'm guessing that might have been a long time ago?
IIRC doctors have been making the risks extremely clear for a long time, at every opportunity because of a few cases where some were not.


I see so many horror stories of celebs having back surgery that has gone wrong. (Hulk Hogan and Ozzy Osbourne) and they have the money for the best surgeons. That I would try all the options first unless surgery is no other option.
Something to remember with some of the celebs, especially in America is that American surgeons and doctors can be a lot more willing to push for a surgery early, and IIRC don't/didn't have the same regulations about best practice that the UK does so might try for different methods that are less well tried out but are fancier/newer/cost more.
Also remember that Hulk was a wrestler so probably loads of damage and then additional damage after surgery, and almost certainly used steroids which could have affected the outcome. [edit] my brother reminded me his signature move was one that would have caused shocks/damage to his spine, so if he did that after any surgery...[/edit]

Surgery today is often very different to even just 10 years ago because of things like improvements in the tools used to train and perform the surgeries, better training and oversight in general for a lot of the surgeons, and much better imaging meaning that the surgeons today can have a significantly better idea of what they're going in for before they ever get the patient to the operating room.

My mother had multiple hip surgeries over the years and some of the methods used for her first couple were pretty barbaric and did a lot of damage to surrounding area needing weeks in hospital, these days an operation for the same condition is done with a much smaller incision (far less muscle damage) and they'll know exactly what they're doing before the first cut* with the result that the patient is often out within a day or two.



*One of her ops required an emergency courier to a central depot in london as they needed a different hip joint size to the selection they'd got on hand ready for the op, these days they'd have mri/ct scans to give a better idea of the size than a couple of standard x-rays.
 
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that sounds about the time there was a real push for all the risks to be fully explained early.

But even 25 years ago I remember my mum getting the risks explained to her for her surgery, and going back nearly 40 years I remember being told the risks for a couple of ops I had.
 
I was told I needed surgery, that was three years ago. Instead I started exercising and going to the gym to build up my lumbar/core support.

I still get pain from time to time but it's nothing that won't go away with rest and can't be managed with off the shelf painkillers.

Having spoken to others with similar stories it seems that clinicians will often tell people that surgery is required simply because they know that if they tell them it might be manageable with lifestyle changes then the patients will decline surgery but only half-commit and make things worse in the long run.
 
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I wish they would do the two I have but the vertebrae on either side of them are crumbling. I have had a disc replaced in my neck back in 2016. I had pins and needles in my fingers and a loss of feeling in my touch leading to me dropping things often. On top of that I had a burning sensation in my upper arm, neck pain which gave me nausea and terrible headaches. They sent me for a scan and found that a disc had disintegrated and pushed against my nerves so offered me a op which I jumped at. It involved removing the destroyed disc, "sanding" the vertebrae on either side as it had rough edges from wearing against each other then inserting a replacement disc which looked like a hockey puck then reinforcing the joint with a titanium plate. I woke up after the op and all symptoms had gone, it was a life changer. Recovery was quoted as a couple of months but it was more or less instant and I was working under the car just two weeks after the op. Your friend should take the offer and get it done, it really is a game changer and I know I would jump at the chance if I was offered it.

Unfortunately it would appear that another disc has failed further up in my neck because I have had similar symptoms for the past couple of months and today was particularly bad with a terrible headache that reduced me to lying down all afternoon. I have no confidence in it being sorted anytime in the next couple of years because I have been waiting over three years for a double knee replacement and they sent me for a MRI on my knees back on Feb 1st and I am still waiting for a follow up with the consultant who currently has a waiting list of 86 weeks!! This is the price of living in the not fit for purpose NHS Grampian catchment area!!
Waiting times are an absolute joke on the NHS for things like this. It took 7 months to get an MRI for facet joint arthritis and a herniated disc, I've been told its a further 32 week waiting list for steroid injection treatment and pain management.

Look after your backs/necks, the NHS wont look after it for you!
 
I had my cspine done and was back to work in three months. It took almost eighteen months to get the maximum benefits though (nerve and cord damage).

A good surgeon won't offer a fusion or replacement unless the benefits outweigh the risks. They're pretty serious and should be a last resort if conservative treatment won't have any effect.

I'm glad I had it done. Despite having a complication and spending a day in intensive care.


I see so many horror stories of celebs having back surgery that has gone wrong. (Hulk Hogan and Ozzy Osbourne) and they have the money for the best surgeons. That I would try all the options first unless surgery is no other option.

A spine fusion is a bit of a gamble. They're usually successful but a not insignificant minority of people will be worse off after.
 
Waiting times are an absolute joke on the NHS for things like this. It took 7 months to get an MRI for facet joint arthritis and a herniated disc, I've been told its a further 32 week waiting list for steroid injection treatment and pain management.

Look after your backs/necks, the NHS wont look after it for you!

I'd extend it to looking after your entire body, they are hopeless currently.
 
I had an L4/5 discectomy in 2006, with. Kyphon X-stop implants through Bupa. Recovery/rehab took approx 18 months.back to full fitness, but then I had another crash and it triggered a degenerative spinal condition. Will need 3 more discs replacing (cervical & thoracic) in the near future,.but trying to put it off as long as I can due to risks...

Also had nerve root clusters at the facet joints lasered (leaving me partially paralyzed between R knee & R hip), which massively reduced the spasms & nerve pain.

Been living with spinal injury & chronic pain for nearly 20 years now; happy to answer any questions.
 
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