M-audio Revolution 5.1 + Z-5500; good combo?

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I just wanted to see whether this would be a good combo. Having found out that linux can't deal too well with digital connections, I have decided to go for 5.1 analogue output from the m-audio revolution 5.1 to the Z-5500.

Anywho, how is the Revolution 5.1 for sound quality? I'll be listening to music on it for the most part, with some gaming as well. I don't want to be spending ~£210 for the Z-5500 and have a sound card that can't show off its great quality.

Thanks!

[Edit: to clarify, I want 5.1 surround sound and linux support (so no X-Fi)]
 
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Start here to find out how the Revo5.1 gets on with Linux:
http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-do...n+5.1.&chip=ICE1724+(Envy24HT)&module=ice1724

From what I've heard the Revo5.1 has excellent sound quality.
I wouldn't waste it on PC speakers personally.

I'd save up £££ (or go second hand) to get some decent amplification and speakers for that card, but it's your money...

BTW - the M-Audio LX4 5.1 bundle is only £294.99 ;)

Alternatively, you could forget about silly old surround sound and get a really nice hi-fi amp and stereo bookshelf speakers, alongside an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 if music is your main priority.
 
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:eek: times 100 !!

I had to really convince myself to consider the Z-5500 @ £210, but £300! I like listening to music, but not THAT much! My concern was with the sound card being bad for the speakers, but you're saying the speakers are too bad for the sound card, interesting...

Seeing how you seem to know about all this (stroke inducing) high-end speaker stuff, do you reckon there is anything better than the Z-5500 for about that price range (ie. £200)?

Cheers for the quick response!

EDIT: I suppose I could go for 2.1 speakers (I know my wallet would appreciate it), but when playing FPS games I think having 5.1 helps in giving the feeling of immersion
 
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eatmuchpie said:
:eek: times 100 !!

I had to really convince myself to consider the Z-5500 @ £210, but £300! I like listening to music, but not THAT much! My concern was with the sound card being bad for the speakers, but you're saying the speakers are too bad for the sound card, interesting...

Seeing how you seem to know about all this (stroke inducing) high-end speaker stuff, do you reckon there is anything better than the Z-5500 for about that price range (ie. £200)?

Cheers for the quick response!

EDIT: I suppose I could go for 2.1 speakers (I know my wallet would appreciate it), but when playing FPS games I think having 5.1 helps in giving the feeling of immersion

I guess my main point is that 6 speakers and an amplifier + cables + remote + software bundle + drivers etc etc etc is a lot for around £200.

You can imagine how little actually gets spent on the speakers by the time profit has been made and the product has been boxed up, shipped, marketed et al.

This is why they have awful plastic housing and tiny drivers (the actual speakers - usually cones).

OK - they sound surprisingly good at first to a layman - but A/B them with something half-decent from the world of hi-fi and they will audibly crumble.
The hi-fi 5.1 set-up would cost far more (or be second hand) naturally.

Compare this to buying two bookshelf stereo speakers, amplification and cables.

The fact you're buying two speakers and not six is going to mean you're spending a far more money per speaker and can thus afford *far* higher quality components. You will get a decent, weighty cabinet and large, higher quality drivers for each speaker.

You can do this for around £200 with budget hi-fi, and if you go second hand you can get some really nice gear.

I guess it's as simple as 'you get what you pay for'. With the Logitech's you're paying around £20 per speaker (if that) - meaning they probably spend a fiver on the components for the satellites (at most).

Get some Wharfedale bookshelfs for around £170 and they will have spent closer to £50 on each speaker...

Basically, surround is a very expensive business if you want to do it well.

If I were in your shoes I'd get the M-Audio 2.1 LX4 setup, which is expandable to 5.1 later on.

The LX4s are a balance between PC speakers and 'real' speakers, and do sound good. The initial 2.1 setup is expandable to 5.1 later on.
There are one or two usability isuues (the volume control is on the back of the sub) - but if you care about the sound you won't mind controling volume primarily from the taskbar.
 
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Codmate said:
Get some Wharfedale bookshelfs for around £170 and they will have spent closer to £50 on each speaker...

Just a quick note - those Wharfedale 9.1s are £129 (new and delivered) on ebay, which makes them even more appealing.
 
fish99 said:
Just a quick note - those Wharfedale 9.1s are £129 (new and delivered) on ebay, which makes them even more appealing.
Indeed!

That means that those Wharfedales could be coupled with an Acoustic Solutions SP101 (£59.95) from Richer Sounds for under the price of the Logitech 5.1 system, with some cash to spare for speaker cable and interconnects :)
 
That's a pretty good idea actually. If I went for the LX 2.1 (which is cheaper than the Z-5500) then I would be getting better quality, and later on I could get the 5.1 upgrade (wallet permitting).

What kind of input does it take? (is it just the one 3.5 mm jack for the 2.1, then an extra two 3.5mm jacks for the 5.1 upgrade?)

Also, could you please e-mail me the addresses of companies that are good to buy this stuff from (OcUK only seem to have PC speakers).

Thanks for all the help!
 
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That's a pretty good idea actually. If I went for the LX 2.1 (which is cheaper than the Z-5500) then I would be getting better quality, and later on I could get the 5.1 upgrade (wallet permitting).

What kind of input does it take? (is it just the one 3.5 mm jack for the 2.1, then an extra two 3.5mm jacks for the 5.1 upgrade?)

Also, could you please e-mail me the addresses of companies that are good to buy this stuff from (OcUK only seem to have PC speakers).

Thanks for all the help!

The LX4 amplifier takes six 1/4" jack inputs in all.
http://www.maudio.co.uk/images/en/callouts/big/lx_421.jpg

One for each channel (although they aren't all used if you're just using the 2.1 system).

The M-Audio Revo5.1 soundcard outputs via stereo 3.5mm jacks.
http://www.maudio.co.uk/images/en/callouts/big/revolution_51.jpg

Judging from the specs and screenshots on M-Audio's site, you need two Stereo 3.5mm jack -> 2 x 1/4" mono Jack cables.

This is becuase, in order to save space at the back of the card, the Revo5.1 has three 3.5mm jacks to cover the six channels required for 5.1 audio; thus each 3.5mm jack is stereo so that it outputs 2 channels.

Setting up the LX4 2.1 system would involve running the single stereo front L/R output shown here:
http://www.maudio.co.uk/images/en/callouts/big/revolution_51.jpg
...into the two mono 1/4" stereo front jack inputs, shown on the rear of the LX4 sub here:
http://www.maudio.co.uk/images/en/callouts/big/lx_421.jpg

Then you have to do the same for the subwoofer/center output on the Revo5.1 - except in this case you will have one 1/4" jack dangling free, ready for when you have a center channel.

Here's an article about jack connectors, quite handy to know about the different sizes and how to identify if they are mono or stereo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip_ring_sleeve

M-Audio have a 'dealer locator' on their website:
http://www.maudio.co.uk
 
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Sounds good (pun intended ;)). So for that price, is the LX4 the best quality? How do they compare against the Wharfedale? I shan't be buying anything until I sell my current stuff (all my money atm is going towards a new conroe computer!), so ebay prices aren't too useful as they will no doubt be sold before I can buy them (couple of months I'd say)

Thanks for the help!
 
eatmuchpie said:
Sounds good (pun intended ;)). So for that price, is the LX4 the best quality? How do they compare against the Wharfedale? I shan't be buying anything until I sell my current stuff (all my money atm is going towards a new conroe computer!), so ebay prices aren't too useful as they will no doubt be sold before I can buy them (couple of months I'd say)

Thanks for the help!

I don't think you'll get better quality 2.1 for the same price as the LX4 without going second hand.

Sound is very subjective though, and you may prefer the sound of something like the Whafedales.
The Whafedales + an amp is a more versatile set-up, as the amp and speakers can be re-used as part of other systems. I suspect the Whafedales will sound a little warmer, although the LX4s have a sub which can be ajusted for loads more bass if you require it.

The Whafedales may provide an open sound stage and more 'hi-fi' sound. The LX4's are intended to become part of a 5.1 monitoring system, so will sound more detailed and transparent and have a tight sound-stage. You will probably hear more via the LX4's, but some people don't like this extra detail, and prefer a warmer, more rounded sound.

Think of something like the LX4's as clinical and the Wharfedale's as musical.

You should get down to a hi-fi store and listen to some if possible (although they are unlikely to stock the LX4s).

As long as they are set up well, then I'm sure you'll be happy with either :D

Personally I prefer a mid-heavy, precise and transparent sound, so the LX4's would be perfect for me - and I'm seriously thinking about getting some.

I also have two more hi-fi systems - a budget one with Wharfedales and a NAD amp for when I want to relax with a magazine and some sounds (oi - not that type of magazine!), and a system with Quad ESL speakers for when I really want to *listen* to the music.

This shows that, even considering only one listener, it's horses for courses!
 
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I guess it's settled then! Once I get my money together, I shall be enjoying the LX4 2.1 through M-audio 5.1, then later on I can upgrade to the 5.1. Thanks very much for your help!
 
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