M$ system restore?
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Only when all else fails
I never use it, in fact system restore is the first thing I turn off on my machine. If there is ever a problem serious enough for me to use system restore, I would rather format anyway and start from fresh. For other users though it is a great way to save a lot of hassle. 
Tattooed said:
Never, M$ system restore has been crap in my experience, and just wastes hdd space.
stoofa said:
It's system restore made by a company that sells os at rip off prices, has been found guilty of being a monopoly and abusing that postition, and sells hardware with known faults (xbox 360) and charges people 10x the component cost to have them fixed when they subsequently break just after their short warranty runs out.
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I've never understood why people bitch at ms for high prices. I mean, buy a copy of adobe, autocad, photoshop for example and you're going to spend a hell of a lot more than you are for an OS which will do far more. hell, you could probably even buy a copy of sbs.
System restore is useful sometimes, i just turn the disk usage down a bit.
System restore is useful sometimes, i just turn the disk usage down a bit.
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killer_uk said:I never use it, in fact system restore is the first thing I turn off on my machine. If there is ever a problem serious enough for me to use system restore, I would rather format anyway and start from fresh. For other users though it is a great way to save a lot of hassle.
Same. Never used it.
Energize said:Never, M$ system restore has been crap in my experience, and just wastes hdd space.
It's system restore made by a company that sells os at rip off prices, has been found guilty of being a monopoly and abusing that postition, and sells hardware with known faults (xbox 360) and charges people 10x the component cost to have them fixed when they subsequently break just after their short warranty runs out.
Used it and works fine. It is only used for when all else fails though or when some prat has installed something they shouldn't.
If you want monopoly try Apple. How they haven't been done yet I don't know. People go after Microsoft as it's got a lot of money. If I was them, and I've said it before, I'd buy an island and then sell there software from there - basically if you don't want Media Player tough luck, etc.
And of course you are going to have problems with hardware - every pirce of hardware has a chance of failing. I've had so many items go just after a year its untrue - it's life!
M.
m4cc45 said:
Yes apple are a monopoly, doesn't make m$ good though does it?
And as for the hardware, I think you need to have a little look at xbox 360 failure rates, you will notice they are quite a few % higher than something well made like the ps3, you'll soon be wondering why they continue to fail at unprecedented rates even though they've had 2 years to fix the problem.
skanky said:
I've never understood why people don't understand why people type m$ unless they really have a mental age of 2...
bledd. said:
There is no proof it slows your system down, that's an absurd misconception often stated as fact.
If you think it slows down your pc you're suffering from a placebo-bandwagon type effect and it's not "actually" slowing down.
SR only kicks in when a system change is due to take place for example when you are about to install a windows update or when you are about to install/update software/drivers that will be making changes to Windows files/drivers -once it has created a checkpoint it goes back into hibernation until next time it is loaded by a similar change. It is not something that runs in the BG like an antivirus app and does not slow anything down or use resources.
You can also customise how much HD space it it reserves, the most common is around 2-5GB which is ample for modern sized primary disks. In Vista the change is done via a command line switch but in XP it's available from System Properties.
Either way it is a valuable system saver in the event that a updated driver causes crashes on boot or bsods during usage or worse. It can be triggered with a windows boot disk or from safe mode and has saved many peoples windows installations from crap driver upgrades or software installs in the past since it is impossible to know whether a particular driver will work stable on your system or not until you try it.
It did not work too well on Windows ME but since XP it has been probably one of Microsoft's most useful OS integrated features ever used.
Also stating MS as M$ makes people sound silly and others often wanting to post a reasonable and on topic post to the OP thread will be more inclined to take the OP less seriously.
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well it slows it down when you're installing programs
couldn't agree more with that, looks lame
you can do the driver rollback feature without having system restore enabled (or even installed if you're an nlite user)
mrk said:
couldn't agree more with that, looks lame
you can do the driver rollback feature without having system restore enabled (or even installed if you're an nlite user)
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bledd. said:well it slows it down when you're installing programs
Incorrect again!, system restore is a process that starts before the software installs and not during, it takes 5~ seconds to create a restore point too... unless your PC was born in the 80s (...the 80s!).
This is probably the reason why "hardcore" people reinstall windows so often because when windows messes up because of a software/driver install that causes it to they blame Microsoft and their "buggy software" and have to reinstall because system restore was turned off...I said probably though, just assuming, been as everyone else is assuming SR slows pcs down I might as well assume my own random stuff!
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It's probably also worth pointing out that its often the only way to recover your system in the event of severe registry corruption i.e. when your registry gets corrupted to the point where your machine can't boot. For that reason alone I think its worth the perceived performance hit.
Also I think M$ is referring to an admin share so the OP must have a lot of hard drives installed
Also I think M$ is referring to an admin share so the OP must have a lot of hard drives installed
Athanor said:It's obvious, it's because they think it makes them look clever somehow as if they've come up with something witty and inventive.
They're right up there with people that think typing in L33t 5p3Ak is cool
Nope try again.
Funnily enough (not so at the time) I used it for the first time this week. Booted up xp to get a message my profile could not be found which meant my settings, email and favorites etc was gone. Was extremely pee'd off but after a quick search on t'intenet I did a restore to the point when i turned the pc on and normality was restored.
Other than that i have never given it any thought!
Other than that i have never given it any thought!