MacBook negative reviews

It's a Mac review written by a low-rent PC mag, what do you expect?

It's patently obvious they don't understand Apple products or Mac OS X. Marking it down for lack of Blu-Ray and USB 2 when the OS supplied doesn't support either is pointless! It's about the end user experience not a tick list of techie stuff.

You really can't be objective can you? CA usually praise Apple products to the heavens, the fact that they haven't done with this particular iteration should tell you something plus it's not the only negative review I have seen about the new 13" model.

I'm quite sure they know Apple refuse (for their own commercial reasons) to support Blu-Ray, not sure if you know the reasons though? If you read the mag you might realise CA actually use a lot of Apple hardware at their offices and love the kit.

Yet again another Apple user (I don't include myself in this criticism) who can't accept that a product may not have quite come up to the mark - why is that? :rolleyes:
 
Haha, I don't think my comment is likely to derail the thread! And anyway, I disagree - you could easily argue the review itself is skewed and out of context. It's overwhelmingly negative, which is fine since it's an opinion piece and I generally agree with some of the criticisms. But to grade it just two stars largely because it's not a massive improvement over the model it replaces? Is this a star rating of the MacBook Pro 13" 2011 model as per the title, or a star rating of the MacBook Pro 13" 2011 model for people who already own the 2010 version? If it's the latter, then it needs to be made more clear by the reviewer.

Clear to me, and I would have thought most of even average intelligence. :eek:
 
You really can't be objective can you? CA usually praise Apple products to the heavens, the fact that they haven't done with this particular iteration should tell you something plus it's not the only negative review I have seen about the new 13" model.

I'm quite sure they know Apple refuse (for their own commercial reasons) to support Blu-Ray, not sure if you know the reasons though? If you read the mag you might realise CA actually use a lot of Apple hardware at their offices and love the kit.

Yet again another Apple user (I don't include myself in this criticism) who can't accept that a product may not have quite come up to the mark - why is that? :rolleyes:

Yet again you jump in the deep end and make an unwarranted attack on someone who disagrees with your very narrow opinion. I'm perfectly objective thanks very much. I might not like CA - it's the Daily Mail of computer mags.

Criticising the product for not including a Blu-Ray or USB 3 when the OS doesn't support either is pointless. By all means take a swipe at the OS or Steve as regards Blu-Ray - that would be perfectly fair. USB 3 isn't built into the chipset so it's a redundant point. Apple and Intel have nailed their colours to the Thunderbolt mast.

The new 13" isn't fantastic, I wouldn't buy one as a replacement to my current machine purely because of the graphics. Doesn't change the fact that it doesn't deserve a 2 star review.
 
Yet again you jump in the deep end and make an unwarranted attack on someone who disagrees with your very narrow opinion. I'm perfectly objective thanks very much. I might not like CA - it's the Daily Mail of computer mags.

Criticising the product for not including a Blu-Ray or USB 3 when the OS doesn't support either is pointless. By all means take a swipe at the OS or Steve as regards Blu-Ray - that would be perfectly fair. USB 3 isn't built into the chipset so it's a redundant point. Apple and Intel have nailed their colours to the Thunderbolt mast.

The new 13" isn't fantastic, I wouldn't buy one as a replacement to my current machine purely because of the graphics. Doesn't change the fact that it doesn't deserve a 2 star review.

To say that CA is the Daily Mail of computer mags really is being grossly unfair and demonstrates "your parochial narrow view" and lack of respect for what is a respected mag.

The quote below is from another well respected reviewing organisation - I don't include the source so you can comment without prejudice.

The bad: Graphics performance is slightly worse than last year's 13-inch Pro; 13-inch screen resolution still low compared with the MacBook Air; Thunderbolt port still an unknown until accessories become available; limited upgrade options; expensive; no HDMI or Blu-ray.
 
Have you ever heard the saying "there's none as blind as those that will not see"? It's a speed bump, not a new MBP, lordy.

It's still a new model. As already mentioned a major rejigging of the internals of a machine is generally considered a new model by all manufacturers... Take iPhones 3G and 3Gs, they look identical so the 3Gs was obviously not the new version then, just a speed bump?

It's a Mac review written by a low-rent PC mag, what do you expect?

It's patently obvious they don't understand Apple products or Mac OS X. Marking it down for lack of Blu-Ray and USB 2 when the OS supplied doesn't support either is pointless! It's about the end user experience not a tick list of techie stuff.

Apparently they do if other reviews are anything to go by, it's the fact they don't seem to understand this form factor in general (fast small ultraportable).

Also it's a laptop and should be marked against it's peers, most of which have Blu-ray and some of which have USB3. Just because OSX doesn't have it doesn't mean it should be neglected in a review when comparable windows laptops do have both.
 
It is essentially... Why have a connection that needs an adaptor for almost every single display youare going to use it on? Especially in an ultraportable which would (assumedly) be used whilst travelling/at work.

Well, the variety of connectors out there - even in business environments I've seen VGA, DVI, HDMI and Displayport recently - means you pretty much need an adapter or two no matter what connection they put on it. Given that, I don't think it's a terrible choice, it's small so it doesn't take too much chassis space (surely an engineering concern for apple, especially as they'll want their entire lineup including the Air's to share the same connector) and it's technically functional in that it can output analogue or digital signals by the relevant adaptor.

I've worked with various windows laptops with other connectors and they're no less painful in real world use, HDMI is sod all use if you're confronted with a projector which needs VGA...VGA is no use if you need HDMI for a screen, only DVI was marginally better as you could output analogue signals via an adaptor, DVI natively and HDMI via an adaptor. Only they stopped putting it on laptops for some stupid reason...
 
The quote below is from another well respected reviewing organisation - I don't include the source so you can comment without prejudice.

The bad: Graphics performance is slightly worse than last year's 13-inch Pro;

The new 13" isn't fantastic, I wouldn't buy one as a replacement to my current machine purely because of the graphics. Doesn't change the fact that it doesn't deserve a 2 star review.

Didn't I just say that above? No need to comment again.

Computer Active gets some love in our IT Training department at work for the fluffy big diagrams. I could write better reviews myself, which isn't saying much. I'll be sticking with the more professional oriented press. PC Pro for example gave it a 5/6, which is somewhat more objective.
 
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Computer Active gets some love in our IT Training department at work for the fluffy big diagrams. I could write better reviews myself, which isn't saying much. I'll be sticking with the more professional oriented press. PC Pro for example gave it a 5/6, which is somewhat more objective.

Yet the quote you only partially quoted from below does not come from CA which I already alluded to but a much larger well respected multi-national reviewing organisation.
The bad: Graphics performance is slightly worse than last year's 13-inch Pro; 13-inch screen resolution still low compared with the MacBook Air; Thunderbolt port still an unknown until accessories become available; limited upgrade options; expensive; no HDMI or Blu-ray.

We will see what next Tuesday brings with the rumored announcement of the new iMac's but I'm not holding my breath. Even Macrumours are saying that the 2011 MBP upgrades are little more than speed bumps and that the whole new MBP will not be released until 2012 product cycle which will see a new body construction.
 
It's a badly written review - I stand by my opinion. Multi-national reviewing organisation or not.

You apparently don't understand the term speed bump. Swapping a 2.4GHz CPU for a 2.53GHz CPU at the same price point is a speed bump. The 2011 MBP uses a new CPU and chipset and therefore got a new primary model identifier.

There is nothing wrong with the existing chassis, so why replace it?
 
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It's a badly written review - I stand by my opinion. Multi-national reviewing organisation or not.

You apparently don't understand the term speed bump. Swapping a 2.4GHz CPU for a 2.53GHz CPU at the same price point is a speed bump. The 2011 MBP uses a new CPU and chipset and therefore got a new primary model identifier.

There is nothing wrong with the existing chassis, so why replace it?

Which review as I am quoting from two but you don't seem able to grasp that. I well understand the term speed bump as do the staunchly loyal and somewhat partisan Macrumours editorial team.

As for the chassis - well given your obvious IT credentials plus your literary abilities why not write a piece to SJ and tell him there is no need for any further changes to the chassis. All I ask is that you post your repose on here including SJ's response.
 
I'm opting to leave this discussion now. I've made my opinions known.

Laters.

I suspect what you're really saying is you've realised that both these reviews are correct in their findings and that SJ and the designers at Apple know a little more about their products than you.
 
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