[MAFIA] The Thirteen Doctors

Shamikebab said:
But you did kill off Egon for unknown reasons, you can stop being smug :p
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Honestly, the whole not reading K1ll thing threw me. Completely.

And no-one else saw what I saw with Leprechaun. I figured I must just be awful at this game :(

So i went back to the votes, nothing else - Egon voted for Brabb but not K1ll - it seemed entirely likely that mafia would take out 1 colleague, but wouldn't take out the second. We'd got rid of Psy (no votes for scum) and I knew I was town (no votes for scum) - Chris only voted for one scum, but it was K1ll, the second find - seemed unlikely.

I did actually leave you a whopping clue as well - I said that the only way to stop me was to kill me - I already knew that was a lie (I'd checked ;)). Since Leprechaun clearly thought it would be him on the block, I figure he decided he had to kill me.

And I picked it up day 1 and you all ignored me, so thhhhhbbbpppt :p
 
kaiowas said:
Given that he was talking in a way where he looked certain to use his role that night then you would have known he was likely to be lying if only one person died that night and I'm not sure there would have been any benefit to knowing who was killed by who (plus if you were expecting shortticky to survive the night you would have been expecting him to be able to tell you who he killed)

Overall I think you'd have been better served targetting someone else although ultimately it didn't matter as you wouldn't have been able to track leprechaun anyway.

Of course if Psy had been on the ball he should have been able to predict my NK and watched me, reported that no-one visited me and alerted you all to the probability that the last scum was able to evade detection.
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Yeah, it was a bummer that Psy wasn't taking part any more than he was forced to because Watcher was an important role in this setup. It's much more useful than Tracker because it exposes Ninjas (assuming nobody else visits the victim).

There is a small flaw in your logic regarding shorttricky being confirmed as a liar if there was only one death: Scum could have visited the same target. Egon being a pretty random shot there was a non-zero chance that this would happen, and there would have been no way to distinguish it from shorttricky being the only killer. There would also only have been one death if Leprechaun had tried NKing Pudney, although in that instance Pudney could have told you he had been saved.

Advanced Mafia strategy lesson: knowing in advance that shorttricky planned to use a vig, Leprechaun could have refrained from making a Night Kill and leveraged the single kill into a mislynch on shorttricky the next day. This might have been the best strategy, as if he pulled it off his following NK would have put the game at 4-man MYLO with a good chance that Shami would have tracked him and believed him to be innocent.
 
JeditOjanen said:
There is a small flaw in your logic regarding shorttricky being confirmed as a liar if there was only one death
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I did qualify my post by saying 1 death would make it likely he was lying rather than definate as I had considered circumstances (such as scum not NKing) that would have made him look guilty, I just didn't feel like spelling out all of the permutations.

Are we OK to post the ghostdoc/scumdoc urls or do you need to do anything first? (such as making them read only to stop bots picking up the URLs and trashing them or suchlike)
 
i dont see any reason not to, i can post the scumdoc if people want it. Also one thing to clarify, we were allowed to talk in the scumdoc even during daytime, which is one thing you all weren't aware off.
 
kaiowas said:
I did qualify my post by saying 1 death would make it likely he was lying rather than definate as I had considered circumstances (such as scum not NKing) that would have made him look guilty, I just didn't feel like spelling out all of the permutations.

Are we OK to post the ghostdoc/scumdoc urls or do you need to do anything first? (such as making them read only to stop bots picking up the URLs and trashing them or suchlike)
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I thought I had posted them, actually. Go ahead, I'll be deleting them in a week or two anyway.
 
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