Mail going missing - Your advice for this my situation?

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Hi,

I'm having a bit of a problem with mail going missing and am not sure where to follow this up next. Hopefully if I give you a background and explain the situation you might have some ideas I've not yet considered. I apologise in advanced if this becomes little long but please bear with me as any help would be greatly appreciated.

Anyway...

I moved into a flat with my partner in August. Mail is delivered into key-locked post boxes (one per flat) which are all mounted on the wall in the communal entrance. To enter this communal entrance requires a key fob. There is a trade button for entry but as far as I am aware this only works for a one hour window during the day.

In the past we have had very little mail, we've had no need. However, recently we are expecting more, what with it being Christmas, etc.

Two weeks ago my pay slip from work failed to show up (obviously including my national insurance number amongst other important pieces of information). I assumed this was a one off. A few days later some pantomime tickets never arrived. I put this down to being unlucky. Since then a few other bits and pieces have failed to arrive, including a course confirmation for my partner and an order from an online retailer for a Christmas gift (possibly even bank statements, though these may simply be late). This is surprising as I am still receiving mail, mostly low value items, of interest to nobody, such as Christmas cards. Due to the small volume of mail I receive sometimes there can be two or three days when nothing is received, yet this is normal. This makes it very hard to spot when things should have arrived and have not.

Obviously by now I am concerned that it appears more important and/or valuable items of my mail appear to be going missing. I have contacted all of the companies whom I was expecting mail from and all have confirmed I should have received the mail by now.

This morning I rang my local Royal Mail sorting office who confirmed that mail is being delivered to my flat as normal and that they are not aware of any problems. They suggested that the lady who delivers the mail to my flat is "as good as gold" (at no stage did I try and apportion blame or even suggest somebody may be acting unfaithfully). I was informed this was a "usual thing" for this time of year and that in the gentleman’s experience this was due to previous tenants accessing mail. The only advice they could give me was to have mail re-directed to the local sorting office as this is only a five minute walk from the property. This sounds useful but ultimately does not get the root cause, and indeed does not help if mail is expected from sources other than Royal Mail. I have not yet followed this avenue further.

I then rang the company who control the communal areas of the flat. They suggest that the mailboxes in the communal entrance are outside of their remit and are at under the ownership of the property owner (in my case, the land lady). The only advice they were able to give was to change the locks on the mailbox. I asked if anybody else had reported similar issues but was told the logs did not show any other calls.

I am now very confused what to do. It seems the only thing in my control is to change the lock on the mail box but I do not believe this will solve anything. Even if somebody had cut a key, it would have to have been the previous tenants (there has only been one before us) or the landlady. None of them have a key fob necessary to even get in to the communal area. The previous tenants are now several miles away and it would take somebody to come and visit the flat every day between the hours of midday and five, as an example, the window between Royal Mail deliveries and my partner collecting mail from the mailbox on her return from work. Clearly the previous tenants, who have jobs (and are therefore busy during the day time), would have no interest in this. Indeed, if somebody is actively collecting the mail they would have to check every day considering the lack of regularity in our amount of mail. This is clearly not worth anybodies time due to the small account of valuable/important mail we have delivered.

Even if I did choose to install a new lock I assume I'd have to foot the bill as, as far as the land lady would still be concerned, we have a matching key and lock and are receiving "some" mail, including hers that we forward on each month. At the moment we have no proof that anything is actually going missing from the mail box.

I am at a loss what else I can do to cure this issue. Obviously it leaves me feeling very concerned that our mail is so vulnerable. I have already arranged for all work documents, including future pay slips, to be delivered to the office but I cannot do this for everything that may ever arrive. I'm also considering turning off paper bills on my bank accounts but it still does not address the root cause.

Any ideas or suggestions where to go with this next?

Thanks! :)
 
send some stuff to yourself and see if it arrives.
if not then maybe setup a spycam and watch it for a few days
 
just pop some things in your box and see if they go missing, if they don't then you know that its not someone accessing your mailbox.
 
just pop some things in your box and see if they go missing, if they don't then you know that its not someone accessing your mailbox.

good idea,i would go for this option and try sending some stuff to yourself as well.

perhaps send a letter to yourself and if it does go missing write something inside saying something like "have you been steeling my mail" ?

If someone is steeling your mail then they might stop it if they read that letter.
 
As above, just place an important looking letter to yourself in the letter box and wait a couple of days. If it disappears call the police.
 
Make sure it looks expensive, put it in a jiffy bag and put a fake return address like Ipods-Direct or something that sounds expensive.
 
Post yourself a letter bomb with staining ink in, whoever is then covered in ink is your culprit, boom!
 
1 - Purchase rape alarm
2 - Tape rape alarm to the inside of your mail box.
3 - Tape the bit which is pulled out to activate the alarm carefully to the door of the mailbox.
4 - Wait.

:o:cool:
 
Small camera inside the box itself, then you'll get a good shot of their face as they open it. Have it transmit the recordings straight to your PC, to avoid them just nicking the camera and memory card and getting away with it.
 
Yep as has been mentioned, place something in there yourself and see if it goes.

I was suspicious about something like this happening to me, turns out it was people in the sorting office stealing parcels marked from online retailers.

However, through this I discovered that it is possible to reach into my communal areas' post boxes simply by stretching your hand into there and scraping what's inside, out, without unlocking and opening it properly. Something to check if your post box isn't very deep.....
 
Communal mailboxes are a security risk.
Perhaps ask your landlady if she'll get a proper box fitted to your door, point out that potentially it'll be her mail going missing too. Seal the communal one up if she agrees.

All assuming it's not some ***** down at the office nicking it all.
 
i got a huge stack of letters delivered by royal mail 2 months ago to my address in the UK. It also came with a letter from royal mail. The posty had been stashing mail from his round for over 3 years. Some of the mail was from 2007, i didnt even know half of it had gone missing.
 
I agree that the best idea is to put a "ringer" package in there yourself. Label it up nicely (a jiffy bag with a flat piece of stone in it and some old cabling -- it'll feel like electronics), and give it a week or so.

If it disappears... hey presto! Someone's been poking in your box.
 
guys the mail is seriously screwed up at the moment.

It is possible that it's just stuck in a bin somewhere waiting to be delivered.

I usually get a glut of chrimbo cards from the UK but only had my first one yesterday. In fact most of the regular UK mail I usually get hasn't been delivered.

Bad weather + christmas post rush and higher than average online sales = mail system struggling to cope.
 
a lot of the items I have ordered the last few weeks have failed to turn up! An item i ordered from America has even beaten quite a few of them -.-

Hopefully its just that things are getting delayed for you too and not as sinister as it seems (:
 
Post some anthrax smeared on a £10 note to yourself, then, when the person who dies comes up in the paper/on the news, you know that it was them.
 
Is there any possibility that your mail is going to another property with the same number close by?

Where I live, there is a house just around the corner with the same number as me but in a different street and its easy to see why some posties get confused (street built in 1920's and half my street was knocked down some time later to make way for a school, so my street starts at number 21 or so and doesnt actually look like a street in its own right)

As it happens I got one for the other house yesterday and another today.

Cheers.
 
Is there any possibility that your mail is going to another property with the same number close by?

Where I live, there is a house just around the corner with the same number as me but in a different street and its easy to see why some posties get confused (street built in 1920's and half my street was knocked down some time later to make way for a school, so my street starts at number 21 or so and doesnt actually look like a street in its own right)

As it happens I got one for the other house yesterday and another today.

Cheers.

we used to get that too
they just shreaded ours even tho we took time to drop theirs over.
 
redirect your mail to sorting office and get one of those red paint antitheft bombs/sprays and put it in your box :D
 
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