Mainstream and CPUs

[shankly1985]

I just wanted to post a new thread for this and why Ryzen in gaming might not "Yet" Be performing in all titles what we expected.

Intel has 8 core CPUs that cost 1k these are not Mainstream chips, and yet this most of the time also underperforms against the 4 core i7 7700K in gaming!
Now the AMD Ryzen 7 8 core is also under performing in some game titles and the reason I believe is more than 4 cores is not yet a mainstream ecosystem.

Am sure a lot of us here remember this very same debate Dual Core for gaming is a waste of Money, quad core is a waste of money for gaming. Because at the time games wasn't using these chips effectively either.

Here is my take on the Ryzen lunch an excellent new release that is yet to show its full potential.. One thing that boggles my mind is just how much different results they is from one reviewer to another.
They is also reports of games that are CPU bottlenecked showing better frame latency on Ryzen than Intel even when the frame rate avg is less.

 

[shankly1985]

Whilst I agree that >4 cores is not mainstream I don't think what you have said explains it completely, because Ryzen currently doesn't seem to be able to match cheaper Intel cpus in gaming, never mind the more expensive ones. An overclocked 1700 would be a lot more appealing if it could consistently beat an overclocked 7600K but that doesn't seem to be the case right now.

You read me wrong mate, 4 cores is the mainstream for PC gaming, we have countless core i5 and i7 on the market..
Game devs have recently started to make i7 the recommended chip..

What I saying is even intels high end 8 core CPU gets beaten by there own 4 core CPU i7 7770k and the reason is game engines and devs are not yet taking advantage of the bigger CPU core count why would they.
Until now we have 8 core CPU's that are at a price range that hopefully Devs start to build games upon only then will we start to see true performance Ryzen can bring in gaming.

It's the dual core era all over again.

 

[shankly1985]

He didn't read you wrong >4 means more than 4 cores in his post...

Opps
Thanks for pointing this out.

 

[shankly1985]

AMD have stated themselves that they didn't expect these to be great gaming chips so I'm not sure what all the fuss is about bar disappointment following the hype.

When?