Man admits UK-US terror bomb plot

squiffy · 12 Oct 2006 at 15:56

@if ®afiq said:
I don't think he was educated much either.

If someone is willing to blow themselves for their religion - giving them a life or death sentance has no relevance on would-be suicide bombers. However if the punishment if they're caught is eternal damanation I'm all up for that. If the only thing they fear is god, then give them the fear of god.

Of course this punishment is only for those 100% guilty of the crime. As to the above poster, of course you can charge them with a crime that is in the planning stage.

scorza · 12 Oct 2006 at 15:56

@if ®afiq said:
I don't know anything about the case, just curious as to why it took him two years to confess.

Its usually because the accused thinks there's a chance that they'll be found not guilty, and then a point occurs at which they realise they are very unlikely to get off, and therefore decide to plead guilty to get a reduced sentance.

Kerplunk · 12 Oct 2006 at 15:57

Hang em buy the nuts dangling from a pilon and lets the birds feast.

Yummah, roasted nuts.

Yas786 · 12 Oct 2006 at 15:58

Von Smallhausen said:
?????

Or perhaps a terrorist with international connections leaves a huge trail that takes along time to follow and gather evidence.

Which invariably the british intelligence and security forces cant really make heads nor tails of it therefore causing more time to be wasted etc etc.

squiffy said:
Any Muslim convicted of terrorist plot should be burnt alive, then wrapped inside the body of a pig, then their body thrown into a pit of pigs and pigs blood. Only way to deter them.

You have some serious issues there son, i suggest you go see someone about them...seems to me you have a lot of resentment towards anyone religious or of a different faith to yours.

squiffy · 12 Oct 2006 at 16:01

You have some serious issues there son, i suggest you go see someone about them...seems to me you have a lot of resentment towards anyone religious or of a different faith to yours. __________________

Don't put the assumption it is my problem. I have never considered or protested murder of those with different race/religion. Except those nutcases that are brainwashed into willing to kill others for that reason.

SiD the Turtle · 12 Oct 2006 at 16:15

squiffy said:
Don't put the assumption it is my problem. I have never considered or protested murder of those with different race/religion. Except those nutcases that are brainwashed into willing to kill others for that reason.

There's something a bit odd about punishing someone for a henious crime using equally abhorrent methods. Are we still in the dark ages? Why should we lower ourselves to their level and also murder. Besides, as Ghandi once said:

"An eye for an eye, the world will soon be blind".

Von Smallhausen · 12 Oct 2006 at 16:16

Spawn said:
Which invariably the british intelligence and security forces cant really make heads nor tails of it therefore causing more time to be wasted etc etc.

Well you nor I have access to such high level information.

VIRII · 12 Oct 2006 at 16:21

@if ®afiq said:
I don't know anything about the case, just curious as to why it took him two years to confess.

Even if he confessed immediately how long would it take to investigate all the claims he made about what he was planning to do and how long to find his accomplices?
Surely you want him to have a fair trial where all the evidence has been properly researched rather than a whitewashed quickie to put baddies behind bars?
It seems they can't win with you can they, they'll take too long or rush it thorugh or get it wrong...

Did ti take 2 years for a confession or 2 years from his confession to come to court .....

VIRII · 12 Oct 2006 at 16:22

bam0 said:
There is much reference to "plotted" and "planned" in the article, obvious really as it's a conspiracy case.
I would be interested to know to what extent the plans had been developed, as I suspect it was very little, especially considering the studies showing that the impact of a "dirty" bomb would be virtually nothing beyond the explosive, assuming the plotters even had a way of getting hold of the material.

Physical impact or psychological impact?
I wonder if a bit of enriched uranium could come via Iran ......

VIRII · 12 Oct 2006 at 16:25

Spawn said:
Which invariably the british intelligence and security forces cant really make heads nor tails of it therefore causing more time to be wasted etc etc.

It seems to me that they almost always get it right and in time too which explains the lack of attacks here.

@if ®afiq · 12 Oct 2006 at 16:29

squiffy said:
Any Muslim convicted of terrorist plot should be burnt alive, then wrapped inside the body of a pig, then their body thrown into a pit of pigs and pigs blood. Only way to deter them.

The reason I made my comment was that doing anything to the body of a Muslim has no effect on whatever happens to him after his death i.e. heaven/hell. All it would do, as has been pointed out, is enrage people.

@if ®afiq · 12 Oct 2006 at 16:33

VIRII said:
It seems to me that they almost always get it right and in time too which explains the lack of attacks here.

lol...yeah right - like the Man U plot, or Forest Gate or maybe the Recin plot?? The fact that only about 4 people have actually been convicted of terrorism out of over 1000 arrested says a lot.

VIRII · 12 Oct 2006 at 16:37

@if ®afiq said:
lol...yeah right - like the Man U plot, or Forest Gate or maybe the Recin plot?? The fact that only about 4 people have actually been convicted of terrorism out of over 1000 arrested says a lot.

Really? What does it say? Does it say that convicting someone of something that they have not yet done is very hard?
The fact that so few attacks have been successful says a lot.
I take it that you think the lads in forest gate were innocent ...... and the child pron was a plant?

It seems to me that to be muslim is to be innocent no matter what in your eyes.

@if ®afiq · 12 Oct 2006 at 16:44

VIRII said:
I take it that you think the lads in forest gate were innocent ...... and the child pron was a plant?

So they got shot for terrorism but got done for child porn....I can see how the two are linked.

crashuk · 12 Oct 2006 at 16:51

maybe its to do with the help he will get from our government if he leaves the country.