Man sends banana to black mans table in Wetherspoons pub

Bassmansam · 15 Sep 2020 at 22:24

Now i know the association with black people and bananas but i don't really see how this is illegal and has resulted in a fine for the guy that sent the banana. In his defense, couldn't he just say he made a mistake and was supposed to send an apple or something else instead?

How can they prove that the senders motive was 100% racist. If it came with an accompanying note then yes but in this case its just a banana.

What are your thoughts GD?

I think the judge has slipped on a banana skin on his way to giving his verdict here.

https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/...IPc3eeyuEz4xAI5jSNRR5rUS0LebRkSBZJILP9RAndr8c

Bassmansam · 15 Sep 2020 at 22:40

Nitefly said:
News Shopper? Wtf?

Local paper in SE London/Kent.

Bassmansam · 15 Sep 2020 at 23:02

JohnG7 said:
Send a big bowl of cal rich desert to the fat chicks table, that could go either way.

You could sit and think of many that could be insulting to the person receiving the "gift".

This is what i was thinking. The fat girl could argue that it is a hate crime.
The spoons app is a great idea but I suppose it is open to abuse.

Bassmansam · 16 Sep 2020 at 08:24

Dis86 said:
Come on, why's it different? Both are nothing more than uncontrollable aspects of ones appearance.

I'm guessing you've got a bugbear about one because it affects you and so are naturally putting it as a point of focus whereas the other doesn't so you fail to see the relevance.

If you don't think people have been equally hurt by being bullied because they wear glasses or have ginger hair or any other characteristic that's seen as a negative then I'd suggest you have the problem.

i am short and have had many comments about it in my 31 years. Quite rare these days though but certainly up to my early 20s. I do often question why racism is more important than what i have experienced, i find it quite annoying tbh..

Bassmansam · 16 Sep 2020 at 08:30

Dis86 said:
@FoxEye they literally can't see the difference or rather the equivalence!

I take your glasses and raise you...a height of 5ft 2. Who wins?

i wear glasses and lets just say i am about that height haha.

Bassmansam · 16 Sep 2020 at 08:40

Dis86 said:
Not, how are you not constantly crying at the police station?

Water off a ducks back and all that. Crying to the police ain’t going to make me taller

Bassmansam · 16 Sep 2020 at 09:37

Dis86 said:
But there is am equivalence because it's about outcome. There is no difference to you between me calling you a name because you're black or because you have small hands or because you have ginger hair.
All are things you have no choice over. All are things that have no measurable change to your character.

No it doesn't matter because there aren't some crazy groups out there who actually want to kill you apparently, resume the insults!

Bassmansam · 16 Sep 2020 at 12:00

inogen said:
Regardless of the courts and the law...

Is there anyone here who thinks it's acceptable to send a black man an unsolicited banana?

Bassmansam · 16 Sep 2020 at 12:17

Salsa said:
Casual, systemic racism alive and well on OCUK forums.

Its exactly this sort of casual racism and the lengths some will go to justify it which demonstrates that not all lives are equal in our society and that needs to change.

/Salsa

You are naive if you think humans will all be treated equally one day. Dream on.

Bassmansam · 16 Sep 2020 at 12:30

Unseul said:
So we should not even bother trying? Full on race war, since things won't ever be perfect?

Why did you assume i meant it was just based on race?
My thinking was about any physical trait, good looking/ugly people, short/tall abled/disabled ect. There are many things people get treated differently for and to expect people to be treated equally regardless of these variables is a nice thought, but it's unrealistic.

Bassmansam · 16 Sep 2020 at 12:33

Unseul said:
Even then, it's surely still the idea to strive towards, and perhaps one day actually achieve. Realistic in our lifetimes? Nope, we can see from this thread alone it won't be, but in thousands of generations?

Absolutely we should strive towards it and it would be amazing if it did happen one day.

Bassmansam · 16 Sep 2020 at 13:42

Bouton Aide said:
I can't get over I'm hearing this on here. I really can't. Absolutely disgusting.

how are you hearing this thread? I am intrigued

Bassmansam · 16 Sep 2020 at 14:45

enkoda said:
Maybe the person who put the plate on the table also thought it was funny?

Maybe they thought it was a deeply offensive and racist gesture, but carried on anyway, regardless of the offence it was likely to cause?

I doubt someone who works for spoons on crap wages is going to question any item thats been ordered.

Bassmansam · 17 Sep 2020 at 08:31

Haze said:
You are clearly racist or stupid

prove it

Bassmansam · 17 Sep 2020 at 09:38

wesimmo said:
He did, he quoted you.

I would like to retract my OP and say that the banana sender clearly did it on purpose and it was in bad taste.

Bassmansam · 17 Sep 2020 at 09:45

Haze said:
This ^^

see post 344.

Bassmansam · 17 Sep 2020 at 10:07

wesimmo said:
If that is a genuine retraction as a result of the points made in this thread, then I applaud you.

Bit of both really. In my OP i was only thinking in terms of the senders defense.
However, I guess there really isn't any defense for him, it was a nasty thing to do. Will he have a criminal record now?

Bassmansam · 21 Sep 2020 at 08:31

bainbridge said:
I found funny the fact that the defendant said he ordered the banana for a joke and it was supposed to go to his own table. Imagine the hilarity that would have ensued, had he selected the correct table, when something he ordered himself was delivered his own table.

what?