Man 'strangles dog' after park attack

Tom84 · 24 Oct 2009 at 00:20

Link

It's getting to the point now where I dread what I might read next when I look at the news

Spyhop · 24 Oct 2009 at 00:30

Nah, he "destroyed" it. That's what they say when they do it.

Dreadhead · 24 Oct 2009 at 00:32

I think dangerous breeds of dogs should be banned outright.

Even when these dogs are treated properly I think it is a case of nature over nurture. Unfortunately, often these breeds are encouraged to revert to a more wild state by the owners.

wordy · 24 Oct 2009 at 00:42

Dreadhead said:
I think dangerous breeds of dogs should be banned outright.

Even when these dogs are treated properly I think it is a case of nature over nurture. Unfortunately, often these breeds are encouraged to revert to a more wild state by the owners.

I take it you've come to this conclusion through years of study into dog pychology and expirience in owning dogs?

Or has your knee just jerked a little to high tonight?

Dreadhead · 24 Oct 2009 at 00:49

All you have to do is a quick search for 'dog attacks' to note the same breeds coming up again and again.

I don't think I'm leaping to conclusions here.

LeJosh · 24 Oct 2009 at 00:56

As far as vicious dogs I think it's down to how they're treated by their owners. Trained to be violent sometimes. I've seen many friendly staffies and pitbulls and many unfriendly.

Dreadhead · 24 Oct 2009 at 01:04

LeJosh said:
As far as vicious dogs I think it's down to how they're treated by their owners. Trained to be violent sometimes. I've seen many friendly staffies and pitbulls and many unfriendly.

If treated properly 'dangerous' breeds of dogs can of course be well adjusted animals.

However, just like every dog has been selectively bred over many generations to have certain physical attributes, many breeds have been developed to have certain aggressive mental attributes, and for good reason. For centuries humans have used dogs to guard and protect, to hunt, and of course to fight.

I think it is possibly a little naive to assume all breeds have equal potential to act in a fully domesticated fashion.

I found an interesting report done in the states which compiled press accounts of dog attacks over a 20 year period:

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog Attacks 1982 to 2006 Clifton.pdf

Fuzz · 24 Oct 2009 at 01:28

'When it returned to the owner he appeared to destroy the dog with no regard for those who witnessed his actions or the animal itself without checking to see if the child was hurt. He is clearly not a responsible pet owner in any regard

Well if it was my dog that I had brought up well and it did that, that's exactly how I'd react, I'd cave it's head in.

Sorry if that offends any onlookers. :rolleyes:

2StepSteve · 24 Oct 2009 at 01:41

Irresponsible dog owner is my first reaction.

This dog almost certainly displayed aggression towards other dogs long before it attacked this child, the owner should have realised this and kept him on a lead at all times.

Second reaction what kind of person kills his dog like this, throws the body in a bin, and doesn't go back to see if the child is ok?

:confused:

Someone with mental heath issues I can only assume?

Angilion · 24 Oct 2009 at 01:58

Dreadhead said:
All you have to do is a quick search for 'dog attacks' to note the same breeds coming up again and again.

I don't think I'm leaping to conclusions here.

The breed responsible for most fog attacks in the UK is the cocker spaniel.

Was that the breed you were thinking of?

Dreadhead · 24 Oct 2009 at 02:14

Angilion said:
The breed responsible for most fog attacks in the UK is the cocker spaniel.

Was that the breed you were thinking of?

Really, do you have a link?

I'm interested as I was under the impression it was the German Shepard.
My cousin works as an actuary for several insurance companies. He was telling me that the German Shepard is the most expensive dog to include 3rd party injury insurance on a policy.

Jambo · 24 Oct 2009 at 02:22

2StepSteve said:
Someone with mental heath issues I can only assume?

That is what I immediately thought. Surely has a screw loose.....

lee32uk · 24 Oct 2009 at 02:30

Angilion said:
The breed responsible for most fog attacks in the UK is the cocker spaniel.

Yep the buggers blend in so well in the mist

Angilion · 24 Oct 2009 at 03:05

Dreadhead said:
Really, do you have a link?

I'm interested as I was under the impression it was the German Shepard.
My cousin works as an actuary for several insurance companies. He was telling me that the German Shepard is the most expensive dog to include 3rd party injury insurance on a policy.

I was being somewhat misleading, because most cocker spaniel bites are relatively minor. Just counting reported numbers of bites, let alone only those bites that people went to hospital to have treated, isn't really a good indication of risk. Hangbag dogs can often be nervous and snappy, but it's unlikely that a single snap from a Yorkie would be formally reported as a dog attack.

Does your cousin know why German Shepherds are the most expensive dog to insure with 3rd party injury cover? It doesn't necessarily reflect how common it is for dogs of that breed to bite people. It might be a matter of how much damage is done - would you rather be attacked once by a German Shepherd or twice by Yorkies?

I don't have a link, as I read it on paper a few years back. Looking online just gets USA figures, although I found one unsubstantiated statement that cocker spaniels and german shepherds were joint top biters in the UK.

Cocker spaniels came in 5th in the USA in a recent study on biting. Dachshunds were top.

There aren't any good stats, as far as I can tell. They don't even take into account how common the breed is, which is obviously a major factor in how many people are bitten by dogs of that breed.

_Jimlad_ · 24 Oct 2009 at 03:06

i disagree, i rescued a staffie from a bad home on a local estate i youth work on, she is a lovely little girl 1 year old, but sometimes she just loses it and recacts to something, i know im a good owner but i did not raise her from brith and damage has been done, yes i teach her new ways and work with her, but a combination of a bad start and her bread means she is a risk n certain situations. Back on topic this man that killed his dog was wrong to do it there but was he wrong to 'destroy' the animal that attacked a child ? i like to think i could do the same rather than drag it down the vets for an injection.

G-MAN2004 · 24 Oct 2009 at 03:12

_Jimlad_ said:
i like to think i could do the same rather than drag it down the vets for an injection.

You'd rather strangle your dog, than let the vets do it humanely?

Substance · 24 Oct 2009 at 03:13

_Jimlad_ said:
A combination of a bad start and her bread means she is a risk n certain situations.

If only she would eat hovis

^TANK^ · 24 Oct 2009 at 03:14

_Jimlad_ said:
i like to think i could do the same rather than drag it down the vets for an injection.

Nice

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_Jimlad_ · 24 Oct 2009 at 03:18

G-MAN2004 said:
You'd rather strangle your dog, than let the vets do it humanely?

yeah, if my dog attacked a child and bit its head i would like to think i could destroy it there and then, i love dogs but a human life is worth a lot more.

i don't see why this has made the press, the owner did the right thing, but in the wrong way, in an ideal world he should have tendered to the child and taken the dog to the vet for destruction. however at least he did destory the dog, agreed not in the best fashion

SuBsTaNcE said:
If only she would eat hovis

yeah yeah, i have had a few beers boy

^TANK^ said:
Nice.

what would you do then praise it for biting a child's head? ...

Azagoth · 24 Oct 2009 at 03:19

So, what's the big problem? His dog attacked a child and he put it down. I fail to see the problem here, after all it's only a dog, a dumb animal, and not the child he's killing.