Management Rant...

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Hi All, Apologies for the rant..

One of my colleagues has been made the department manager, he was always a senior since I've join the company 5 years ago but was never my direct manager.

His position hasn't official been briefed out as far as I am aware, it's just been word of mouth and the way he's been acting.

Anyway, we have a small department 4 of us; we all work hard and are clearly understaff as we are looking to employ someone else. Working in IT I log everything I do in our job management system, document any project/system work as per industry standard, we also write a yearly review on ourselves as per company requirements.

But he now wants a weekly report on what we have done and what we are planning to do next week, which I flatly refused and explained to him why it shoudn't be required.

Quite frankly I feel insulted that I need to do this; I feel it's nothing but time and motion and for him to try and micromanage us when it's not required. It shows a lack of trust; in that we know what we are doing or will seek help when required! If he has an issue with a member of staff; be that me, he should address it with that member of staff and not change procedure and cause us more work.

I can understand such reports are required if a person is up for review, or if their manage serveal departments/areas/companies but this person was put in place to run the day to day affairs of the department because the person that was doing it manages serveal departments; doesn't have the time nor the experince to get involved in everyday affairs.

Like said, I'm never hid anything away from my colleagues. I log everything, document what needs to be documented at the correct time and keep them inform verbally or via email when required. It's not like I'm new to the role or to the company. So it be a mighty small report if I did one anyway! But rather having regular meetings; which is what we been asking for as forsure if he needs to know; so does my other colleagues.

I'm going to be quite blunt and honest and say that even before he was made the boss. Out of the four in the department he is the worst for:
- time management; never gets anything done on time, so people would ask us to do it instead.
- Information flow; never tells us anything about the systems that he is looking after.

So a lot of the time when I'm doing something out of scope; which is what I think he's worried about... I'm covering his butt.

Anyway; I'm prepared to walk over this, worked out how much I need to live and prepared to take a paycut not to work under such a regime. No other department operates in such a manner and in all the places I worked for; and I have worked on the road where I've not touch base for months in a row, I have never required to do this.
 
Typical tool. Many people can't handle a promotion as it goes to their head and therefore feel the need to make their mark burdening their subordinates with unnecessary, pointless work.

Ergo, tool.
 
Ask him what he hopes to achieve with the reports. There might be something wrong he's neglecting to tell you.
 
Just do it. In these situations it's usually best just to do as you are told especially how it's something as basic as logging. Makes things worse when you chat back really but I do understand where you coming from. Just been in the same situation ourselves just more work.

Can you not pull the report from the management system or even better have it email the manager directly of the stats?
 
Ask him what he hopes to achieve with the reports. There might be something wrong he's neglecting to tell you.

Yub that was the first question I asked him... what's the purpose of this? and his response was so he can keep track of us.
Honestly thou there will be nothing in the report apart from "Business as usual" and filled in this report.
 
I'm fortunate enough to never have to deal with this (my boss hates paperwork!) but I'd imagine arguing against this from the outset is only going to get his back up. If he wants to keep track of you I'd argue for a 10min catchup once a week, or fortnightly. Maybe a report once a month if he really wants something written down.
 
Create a RAG report as requested. It shouldn’t be a massive overhead if you are already providing the info into your management system.

It’s your choice of course but conflict causes more stress.
 
Create a RAG report as requested. It shouldn’t be a massive overhead if you are already providing the info into your management system.

It’s your choice of course but conflict causes more stress.

Like said, I'm cool with walking away; what stress is causes will affect him as well.

Out of interest was you not given the opportunity to apply?

No one was given the opportunity to apply, possible down to historical reasons, trust me I don't want to manage the department as it would drag me away from the technical side which is what I enjoy.
 
We do this in the form of daily stand-ups just to increase visibility. It's actually been quite useful to help prioritise things and has been used to take work OFF employees who are up against it rather than to highlight those who aren't pulling their weight. The other thing we do is weekly demos and retrospectives, which have been pretty great at highlighting issues of process.

Does it feel like he's abusing the power, or could it be to try and make sure work load is spread as evenly as possible given that some of you are obviously up against it with the lack of staff? Seems like it could be used to make sure no one person is feeling the brunt of it if handled correctly...
 
I hope you never have to work in an Agile environment, where you have to do this daily!
 
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We do this in the form of daily stand-ups just to increase visibility. It's actually been quite useful to help prioritise things and has been used to take work OFF employees who are up against it rather than to highlight those who aren't pulling their weight. The other thing we do is weekly demos and retrospectives, which have been pretty great at highlighting issues of process.

Does it feel like he's abusing the power, or could it be to try and make sure work load is spread as evenly as possible given that some of you are obviously up against it with the lack of staff? Seems like it could be used to make sure no one person is feeling the brunt of it if handled correctly...

We all look after different areas of the department responsibilities some of which are specialist tasks, like said I'm happy to share my workload, help out where/when I can and pass information around; just not in the format of a written report that waste time and is in no benifit for anyone apart from someones' ego.

To me; perhaps down to histrionic behavior of the person.. but it's so he knows what's going on, I agree he has the right to but it's in the system already, but this will just allow him to interfere and make work harder than it should be. He's not the most reasonable person, he will justify his case relentless then next day change his mind and then argue that case. In many cases in the past; we have just gone "WTF?!?" and worked around him, this includes people from other departments.

Now that he's the boss this makes it more difficult and I think he's trying to plug up the hole with the reports.
 
Like said, I'm cool with walking away; what stress is causes will affect him as well.

No one was given the opportunity to apply, possible down to historical reasons, trust me I don't want to manage the department as it would drag me away from the technical side which is what I enjoy.

To be honest you don't exactly sound like the easiest person to manage if this is your response. It's easy to take a back seat and criticise, yet admittley wouldn't have the cohones to manage yourself.
 
To be honest you don't exactly sound like the easiest person to manage if this is your response. It's easy to take a back seat and criticise, yet admittley wouldn't have the cohones to manage yourself.

This.

I do this with my team and it helps make sure no effort is duplicated, share information, if someone needs help I can facilitate it and if there are overlaps in work we can avoid this. It's a positive and it helps us work together and support one another.

Pull the stick out your behind and just work with him and help the guy out.
 
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