Manchester or Toledo..eh?

[Modjo]

I've got a 939 +3800 manchester and I've just been speaking to a forum member who'e just ordered a new 939 +3800 Toledo (cheap @ £40!). Why do they have different names? Is it when they were made or slightly different architecture? Also is one better than the other?

 

[Jokester]

The Toledo's were crippled so they only had 512KB of cache per core, compared to the 1MB of a normal Toledo. Manchester's only had 512KB per core.

Jokester

 

[SkeeterUK]

Be cool if you can mod them so extra cache is enabled (very doubtful possible) lol. Toledos i presume supose to be better to overclock but i've seen both versions clock about the same.

 

[Jokester]

Manchesters generally overclock further than the crippled Toledos as presumably the Toledo versions are the cores that didn't make it as Toledos proper. I seem to remember they ran a bit hotter as well.

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[El Jimben]

Manchesters generally overclock further than the crippled Toledos as presumably the Toledo versions are the cores that didn't make it as Toledos proper. I seem to remember they ran a bit hotter as well.

Jokester

I have heard this too but isn't the E6 revision supposedly better than the E4, better memory controller or something? I'm sure it's Ghgh on here that has a Toledo core x2 3800 that does over 3GHz.

 

[str]

Manchesters generally overclock further than the crippled Toledos as presumably the Toledo versions are the cores that didn't make it as Toledos proper. I seem to remember they ran a bit hotter as well.

Jokester

Many of the late 2006 onwards Toledo cores are overclocking to 2.7GHz+ on stock volts.

 

[easyrider]

The Toledo's were crippled so they only had 512KB of cache per core, compared to the 1MB of a normal Toledo. Manchester's only had 512KB per core.

Jokester

The manchester core of the X2 was designed from the ground up.

The toledo's where just 4400's amd 4800's with failed cache and just sold as 512k versions.

Depending on the stepping the toledo could scale quite well as ther were really faster 4400's nd 4800's with disabled cache.


IRRC some toledos clocked better than the manchesters but thats the game with overclocking.

 

[easyrider]

Be cool if you can mod them so extra cache is enabled (very doubtful possible) lol. Toledos i presume supose to be better to overclock but i've seen both versions clock about the same.

The cache was disabled at hardware level so no modding was possible.

It was also disabled for a reason.....failure

 

[Vertigo]

I presume the "good" Toledos become Opterons and the ones that didn't make it became Athlons. My Opty 165 Toledo does 2.8Ghz on air easily.