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Hey guys.

Recently i've been toying with the idea of taking up muay thai, mainly for to help contribute to health and fitness and overall body well-being, but also for flexibility.

Anyone else either a practioner of a martial art or thought about learning one?

And if so any advice for someone considering taking up martial arts?
 
Advice - try a few places and a few different styles. Different styles will appeal to you and of course 2 places doing the same thing might actually be different (be it atmosphere or general attitude or direction). So find the right place and right MA for you :)
 
Advice - try a few places and a few different styles. Different styles will appeal to you and of course 2 places doing the same thing might actually be different (be it atmosphere or general attitude or direction). So find the right place and right MA for you :)

This pretty much^

Ignore what everyone else says because everyman and his dog will claim that XYZ is **** and XYZ is amazing.

Try a few different things and see what you like.
 
Very similar to Muay Thai but easier to find and equally as good for fitness and self defence is Kyokushin karate, don't look at the name Karate and think lame.

It's a true hard bare knuckle style and you do lots of sparring.

Look it up.

There are plenty of martial arts to try, and you will be able to find the one that suits you. Just because it doesn't suit someone else don't let that put you off :)
 
I practice Kendo, the Japanese art of the sword. I'm coming up too 2 years in Sept, passed my Ikkyu in May and going for my first Dan at the end of the year.

I highly recommend you try that, it will push you harder then everything else you could ever try, your body, soul and mind will all benefit in the long run and you make some great friends, nothing is more fun and rewarding then going for a drink with everyone after a hard practice.

Mind you, it's a life time art as well as pretty hard on the body, if you not prepared to train that long, then it's not for you.
 
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If you want some serious self defence, I'd recommend Boxing and Jiu Jitsu(very easy to find lessons in the UK now). You can't go wrong with those, but if you want to really push yourself and get into great shape, then just do Muay Thai, but something to remember is that each gym trains differently, some gym's are terribly easy and won't do you a whole lot of good whereas others will push you until you either mentally give up or physically break. If you are around the West Midlands area, look up either Spiritual Warrior (sounds lame but its a very good gym) or Combat & Exercise, the latter is a little easier and beginner friendly, where as S.W will throw you in at the deep end.

Boxing & Jiu Jitsu lesson's are easy to come by, and very cheap though.
 
I practice Kendo, the Japanese art of the sword. I'm coming up too 2 years in Sept, passed my Ikkyu in May and going for my first Dan at the end of the year.

I highly recommend you try that, it will push you harder then everything else you could ever try, your body, soul and mind will all benefit in the long run and you make some great friends, nothing is more fun and rewarding then going for a drink with everyone after a hard practice.

Mind you, it's a life time art as well as pretty hard on the body, if you not prepared to train that long, then it's not for you.

That is awesome! never known anyone to do Kendo (have seen it a few times but not enough tbh). It looks a fantastic MA. Would you mind starting another thread and telling us all a bit about it? :)
 
As already said find something that you enjoy and do it

Also try and make sure that you a good reputable instructor, there are a lot of bad instructors out there for many of the different martial arts
 
That is awesome! never known anyone to do Kendo (have seen it a few times but not enough tbh). It looks a fantastic MA. Would you mind starting another thread and telling us all a bit about it? :)

Little embarrassing to start a new topic, but am happy to tell you about it here and answer any questions you might add.

I won't explain what Kendo is since the wiki can do a better job at that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kendo

I guess I start with a small intro, I started Kendo after looking for something to join or do after I moved down south, good way to get active and make new friends, I saw Kendo in an Anime called Bamboo Blade, by episode 6, I said to myself that's what I wanted to do.

Found a club that had a beginners course starting a month or two later and started to attend, it lasts 12 weeks at ours, we have two sister clubs and I went to both courses so got double the training before we moved joined the main class.

I practice twice a week but would like to train more, but money to travel limits that because I would need to travel to Oxford or London for extra training and at £10 or £25 a time by rail that's a little too much for me right now.

Training wise, an training session starts slow and easy and slowly gets harder and more intense at the end.

Kendo training consisits of a lot of basics and repeating that over and over and over 100's and 1000's of times till everything becomes muscle memory.

You learn how to hold a Shinai (Bamboo sword) and how to do the basic cuts (hits) and waza (techniques) there are four (5+ really), but these are the main areas to strike, these are Men (head), Kote (wrist/hand), Do (Chest/sides) and Tsuki (throat), the idea is that if you can cut these area's prefectly each time, you can cut any part of a persons body.

The golden egg of every Kendoka (Or Kenshi) as we call ourselves is to do a beautiful Men cut with full spirit.

Each cut is done with Kiai (scream) as well as the correct fumikomi (like a slap on the floor with our foot) and full and proper zanshin which is to show "look at me, I just cut this guy down, hooah" as well as being ready to attack the next guy! Of cause, the cut has to be correct and the technique or waza has to be right, there is few other points, but the three things are what really counts to score a Ippon (point)

Kendo is all about going forward and attacking, never backwards. Anything else just shows weak spirit and not the right thing to do.

Training wise, we start with lots of Men cuts with zanshin (running tho and pass the person you just cut as well as Kiai'ing and all that) then we might do a other cuts, like Kote to the hands and wrists, sometimes Do.

There is lots more we can learn in the first hour then this, while the second hour is when we might switch to a execise called Jigeiko (sparring with everything learned, but no pressure to win) and Kirikaeshi.

In Jigeiko, we normally spar with someone for 3 to 5 minutes where we fight each other, using everything we know and learned that night. For me, personally, it's very tough in the last 20/30 minutes because am not really fit and the feeling I get or anyone gets at the end is awesome, knowing that you beaten yourself to keep on going and not stop is very rewarding when it can be really easy to stop yourself.

Kirikaeshi, is a other major execise we practice a lot which is like.. none stop hitting, you attack the person, normally their Men about 9 times (has to be a odd number) while going forwards and backwards. Personally speaking again, this is the second most hardest thing I do in Kendo, because you do this X number of times with everyone and at the end, your arms feel like they going to drop off, but again this is me being unfit, lol

It's very rewarding to you and to others if you can do something really nice, to hear Sensei (teacher) say to you, that you done something good, it's a pretty good achievement since it's hard work to get everything working right.

There is a common joke in Kendo is that, we might fix an problem but make a other problem in fixing it. lol

So it's a none stop battle really each week, but like I said before, this is a life time thing, my two Sensei's have been doing Kendo for over 45+ years now and they are only 6th or 7th Dan. (8th is the max really, there is 9th and 10th, but it's not really awarded anymore)

I'm 30 now, so my dream is to become a 5th or 6th Dan which is going to be a very tough road to travel. There are no coloured belts in Kendo.

Kendo is practiced with an Gi and Hakama and armour (Bogu) that covers our body, a lot of people get uneasy and easy quit when they wear the Men (hat), when I first got into Armour after 12 weeks, I said to my mates, I feel like a tank, your vision is closed and you feel very bulky, I been doing this for almost 2 years now, it's like a second skin to me.

Kendo has a very high drop out rate, we are currently running a beginners course in Reading and we have about 15 or so beginners, we be lucky to have 5 of them stay, but the likley hood that we only get to keep 3.

In my course when I started, we had 16, there is only 3 of us now, we did have a few more, but they stopped coming, while the beginner course at our sister who started at the same time as mine, only has one member left. We be lucky to have 1 or 3 that stay when the year is finished.

I been to a lot of Taikai's (competitions) and training weekends about the country, I done pretty well at competitoins for my peer group level and lost a few as well, but it's a lot of good fun.

Kendo in the UK is pretty small, we have about 1000+ members, so it's really easy to get to know everyone and make and stay friends with people.

This photo below is taken at the Oxford Xmas Cup last year, I just had a match which I won and (I was freaking dying inside because it lasted like 9 minutes) and I was walking to the other side of the court to fight my second match. (I don't have red eyes btw lol) I also won my second and my third to lose in my 4th match for 4th place, but I won Best Fighting Spirit which is pretty awesome since it's only given to those who as the name implys, has the best fighting spirit, two of my matches lasted well beyond the time limit and over 9 minutes, so I think it was well deserved, I had no breaks in between my matches to rest and get my breath back, but they did allow me a minute before my second match. lol

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This was at the British Open 11 at London.

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Finally, Kendo can be done by all ages, there are kids as young as 5+ who practice this and people into their late 90's, everyone is an equal in Kendo, weight, sizes, sex and all that, don't really count.

If you have any other questions or whatever, just ask.
 
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I did Karate at a young age and up until a few years ago I moved over to Jeet Kune Do. JKD was definetely better so far as fitness and flexibility went as it was much more about fast movements, be it dodging or closing ground on an opponent.
 
Fella, that is simply awesome, thanks for that :) Make sure you keep us up to date with other comps and achievements as this is one of those things that shows how diverse this forum is :D

It looks fantastic and credit to doing something that is all about going forwards, especially like you said as sometimes its for a significant time with a hefty suit on :D
 
Very informative post there, IronWarrior.

I have always been fascinated by Kendo and from what I have seen it is a pretty intense martial art. I'm sure people write it off as nothing but stick fighting but I wonder how they would feel if you put them in a 9 minute round of it :)
 
Some martial arts are a bit picky about recording stuff.

In Jiu Jitsu I was told they weren't allowed to let me write down the names of the moves because they should be passed down verbally!
 
Fella, that is simply awesome, thanks for that :) Make sure you keep us up to date with other comps and achievements as this is one of those things that shows how diverse this forum is :D

It looks fantastic and credit to doing something that is all about going forwards, especially like you said as sometimes its for a significant time with a hefty suit on :D

Ah thank you, Kendo is and has been the best thing I ever choosen to do in life, hopefully will have more to show and share with others as time goes by.

Very informative post there, IronWarrior.

I have always been fascinated by Kendo and from what I have seen it is a pretty intense martial art. I'm sure people write it off as nothing but stick fighting but I wonder how they would feel if you put them in a 9 minute round of it :)

Yes, to the untrain eye, it can look like hitting people with sticks, but there is so much more to it once you learn about it, there is so much going on between two players in a fight, not just from what you see, but their minds/spirits are fighting each other at the same time, Kendo is really about building your character through the Art of the sword and I believe it does, through, I do enjoy competitons a lot, joining the British Kendo Squad is one of my goals, but I got a long way to go before I could ever get a chance.

I should include that Kendo isn't all about fighting, there are like two versions of Kendo, there is the fighting side and the grading side where you meant to show your best Kendo which should be your Kendo full stop, but fighting brings out a lot of bad habits like blocking for example, if you blocking someones attack on you, it's seen as bad foam, since if you can block, you can attack, blocking for the sake of blocking isn't right. Should always be attacking.

There is also Kata too which we use Bokken.

It still surprises me today how much energy it takes out of you in a fight, even if a match is only 3 minutes or 9 minutes, but somehow you get through it, 3 or 9 minutes (3 minutes is a normal match time) can feel like forever in a match.

There is a competition in Japan where they some players who enter fight none stop for 3 hours, it's not about lose or win, it's not really a competition, but a test. The Kenshi who enter it are the strongest people I have ever seen, they get pushed around, pushed to the floor, knocked over, stabbed, totally owned in every sense, but they keep fighting.

Below is a 3 minute video of one.


There is also this doc that is 48 minutes, it's all in Japanese, but to sum it up, it's about one guy who wants to finish this 3 hour shai (fight) using the Jodan stance (Jodan is where you hold the shinai above your head instead of how we normally hold it), If you think about holding something above your head and fighting for 3 hours, you can easy understand what a huge test this was for him, he was the first guy who did it from what I understand.

One of the idea's about this is that after you been fighting for so long, you stop thinking, because you too tired to think, so everything happens from muscle memory and you just do what you meant to do without thinking.


Got any videos of your fights IronWarrior? Looks awesome. :cool:

Yes, have a few but they all uploaded to Facebook, I put them on Youtube sometime in the next few days to show, beware I sound like an Orc lol

If you guys like, watch these two videos, one is a doc on Kendo, only 10 or so minutes and a other is a demo of practices, makes my jaw drop everytime, it gets really good in the middle and end.


 
I have practised jui jitsu and judo for some years now, please try out a few before you subscribe your time and efforts to one style. in jui jitsu we steal from other styles all the time as well as having the etiquette and history from old jui jitsu.


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IronWarrior - that is simply one of the most impressive things I've seen on this forum, I'm well impressed :)
Also your passion and clear commitment to the art is rather inspiring :)
 
I used to train kickboxing karate when I was younger. Like others have said you really need to try different gyms and styles before you choose where to settle. I remember going to some clubs and being bored stupid with the slow pace of it. Different senseis at the same club can give completely different experiences as well.
 
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