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Matrix 7970 will not boot with PCI-E 3.0 enabled ?

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I did hijack someone else's thread but thought it best to start my own.

I'm having a weird issue with a new Asus HD 7970 Matrix card and my MSI Z87-G45 Gaming motherboard.

When I select PCI-E gen 3 in the settings I get no signal out from the Matrix, As I can then immediately power off the Pc it seems it is freezing at the bios load.

If I enable PCI-E 2.0 in the settings it runs fine without issue.

I can run with PCI-E 3.0 enabled but have to have the Matrix in the second slot (8x3.0) slot for it to work, again it works fine in this slot. The problem is the card sits against my PSU and blocks on off one of the fans so this is not really ideal.

Has anyone managed to get this card running PCI-E 3.0 in the top (16x3.0) slot on either this board or had any similar issues as I'm out of options to try.

I have loaded the latest bios for the motherboard and even tried a few older ones with no luck. I have also applied the update to the GPU on the Asus site again with no luck.

My previous GTX 680 ran fine using PCI-E 3.0 in the top slot so I doubt it is an issue with the motherboard ?

Any help would be very welcome...

Cheers
 
Any other PCI-E cards installed? If you have try removing them see if it enables?

If you don't find a solution, it might be worth asking on the MSI Forums, whenever I've asked for help on there with my MSI boards, I usually get some good help back.

An MSI tech roams the forum as well now.

EDIT: Also you can get access to the latest beta bios on there as well, if you haven't already got it, they update the beta's quite regular usually.
 
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Latest beta bios, dated 26th September 2013.

Source = http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=169943.0

Click here >> http://www.mediafire.com/download/4gg38ln5jrnjuxs/E7821IMS.zip
E7821IMS.140 ===>E7821IMS.154 Beta Bios

VGA BIOS : 2177
GOP : 5.0.1035
ME Version : 9.0.21.1462
RAID ROM : 12.8.0.1016 PV(12.7.0.1936)
LAN OptionRom : 2.1.1.5(UEFI v1.1.0.4)
Device OptionRom : N/A
Update code base form 4.6.5.4_VEB_1AQQW031_m023b
01. Update MsiOc - SharkBay module to MsiOc_SharkBay_m161
& MsiOc - SharkBay Private module to MsiOc_SharkBay_Private_m164
a. Modify Memory Presets DRAM voltage related code.
b. Fix CPU Base Clock not restored to default setting issue when OC fail by reset retry.
c. Auto adjust some voltage for non K sku CPU.
d. Modify some OC memory patch solution.
e. Add more Memory Presets option.
f. Modify some code for GSE Favorites function.
02. Update MSI GSEII module to 4.6.2_TSE_2_15_1236_m073
a. Fix display setup menu path will cover each other when multi-languages.
03. Update NTFS Driver module to NTFS Driver_m103
a. Add solution to fix System hang up "A2" with some hard disk.
Update code base form 4.6.5.4_VEB_1AQQW031_m023a
01. Update MsiOc - SharkBay module to MsiOc_SharkBay_m160
& MsiOc - SharkBay Private module to MsiOc_SharkBay_Private_m163
a. Hidden some OC item for H81 model to follow H81 BIOS spec.
b. Patch system run Memtest 5.0 test fail issue when use Kingston KH424C11T3K4/32X memory and XMP is Profile 1.
c. Remove current voltage information in DRAM voltage item when model HW design not support sensor DRAM voltage circuit.
d. Fix system hang on 0x55 issue when use G.SKILL F3-2933C12Q-16GTXDG(12-14-14-35) memory and XMP is enabled.
e. Update XTU modify code to private file.
f. Update golden board modify code to private file.
02. Update MSI XTU - SharkBay module to MSI_XTU_SharkBay_m114
& MSI XTU - SharkBay Private module to MSI_XTU_SharkBay_Private_m123
a. Support NCT3933 DRAM Voltage related code.
03. Update uP1811 module to uP1811_m111
a. Remove unnecessary option string when item mode is numeric keyin.
b. Remove unnecessary setup init string code when item mode is numeric keyin.
04. Add NCT3933 module NCT3933_m103
a. Remove unnecessary option string when item mode is numeric keyin.
b. Remove unnecessary setup init string code when item mode is numeric keyin.
05. Update USB modules to 4.6.3_USB_08.10.28
06. Update MSI GSEII module to 4.6.2_TSE_2_15_1236_m072
& GSESetup module to SharkBaySetup_m020
& MSI GSEII Common Private module to MSI_GSEII_Common_Private_m012
& MGSE - ClickBIOSUI module to ClickBIOSUI_m015
a. Fix Data and Time item will overrid scrollbar.
b. Fix mouse cursor will override BIOS setup path when press right button of mouse.
c. Beta function(Fix favorites function).
d. Update USB modules from "4.6.3_USB_08.10.27" to "4.6.3_USB_08.10.28".
e. Fix Dialog Function don't show select item background.
07. Update MFLASH module to MFLASH_m013
a. Fixed MFlash fail when plug over 4 HDD device.
08. Update GOP Driver to 5.0.1035
09. Fixed CSM BOM network stack default error after clear CMOS.
Update code base form 4.6.5.4_VEB_1AQQW031_m023
01. Update code base to 4.6.5.4_VEB_1AQQW031
02. Update MsiOc - SharkBay module to MsiOc_SharkBay_m159
& MsiOc - SharkBay Private module to MsiOc_SharkBay_Private_m162
03. Update MSI XTU - SharkBay module to MSI_XTU_SharkBay_m113
& MSI XTU - SharkBay Private module to MSI_XTU_SharkBay_Private_m122
04. Update IR3563A module to IR3563A_m111
05. Update uP1811 module to uP1811_m110
06. Update MSI GSEII module to 4.6.2_TSE_2_15_1236_m070
& MGSE - ClickBIOSUI module to ClickBIOSUI_m014
& GSESetup module to SharkBaySetup_m019
& MSI GSEII Common Private module to MSI_GSEII_Common_Private_m011
& MSI GSEII SharkBay Private module to MSI_GSEII_SharkBay_Private_m014
07. Update HardwareMonitor module to HardwareMonitor_m029
08. Update GBI module to GBI_m019
09. Update MSI Multi Language module to MSI_Multi_Language_m007
10. Update OSSelect module to OSSelect_m019
11. Update Aptio NCB/ROM Hole module to Aptio NCB ROM Hole_m123
12. Add NCT3933 module NCT3933_m102
13. Update FITC module to FITC_ME9_1.5M_1432_m012
14. Update uP1649 module to uP1649_m107
15. Update CPU MicroCode - M32306C3_00000016(Intel(R) Haswell Processor C-0)
16. Fix the OC_switch LED will be power on when system enter S4/S5 with "EUP 2013" being enable
17. Display DMI Type1,type2,type3 information in bios Main menu for CSM bom.
18. Protect type 2 info when updating BIOS for CSM bom.
19. Fix MFlash fail issue when connecting 4 SATA HDD.
01.Patch system can't boot issue when use CMY8GX3M2A2133C11 & CMZ8GX3M2A2133C11 &
CMZ8GX3M2A2133C11B memory and XMP is enabled.
02.Fix VBIOS to hang B2 Issue when plug in three monitor.
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Nelly said:
Any other PCI-E cards installed? If you have try removing them see if it enables?

If you don't find a solution, it might be worth asking on the MSI Forums, whenever I've asked for help on there with my MSI boards, I usually get some good help back.

An MSI tech roams the forum as well now.

EDIT: Also you can get access to the latest beta bios on there as well, if you haven't already got it, they update the beta's quite regular usually.
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No other PCI-E cards installed just the gpu.

I have tried the beta bios posted but its still the same no post or display with pci-e 3 enabled. I will put a post on there tomorrow and see what they say.

I have no idea really if its the card or board. It just seems strange that my 680 ran fine.
 
Actually now it seems to be booting into windows but still no display at all.

This card is a complete pain in the butt. Its also damn noisy at idle for some reason.

I'm just about given up with it no wonder they are cheap.
 
Hades said:
I'm sure there's a solution. However...

Considered a DSR return?
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I have considered throwing the damn thing out the window as well... :)

It's annoying me as I'm not sure what is at fault the Matrix or the Motherboard.

The fan can be fixed with a custom profile once it's running but at the moment I'm stuck trying to work out what's at fault.

I also know running the card at PCI-E 2.0 will make no difference as I have tested this before myself but my OCD says it needs to be at 3.0 as it should damn well work.. :)
 
Hades said:
If in doubt, DSR and then buy again later when it's cheaper and you've found out more.
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Just tried my reference Sapphire 7970 again which is a bit knackered but it runs fine with PCI-E 3.0 enabled. It must be the matrix although I'm not convinced its faulty just incompatible which is weird if a reference card works fine.

Not really great for what is meant to be the best 7970......
 
I have now tried every available bios available either full or Beta for the G45 gaming board and had exactly the same issue with all of them. None of them will allow the Matrix Plat to run with PCI-E Gen 3 enabled only 2.

I think this is just a compatibility issue with the card and board tbh. More than likely as MSI wan't you to buy a lightning :)

MSI blame Asus and Asus blame MSI so no help from either of them really.

The easy answer would be to run the card using PCI-E Gen 2 but this for me is not good enough and also if the bios fails and resets it becomes a pain.

I have decided just to order a Asus Maximus VI Hero board and sell the MSI.

The Matrix 7970 is happy running at 1375 on the core with no volts increase so it's a keeper for now.

Stupid computers...... :p
 
"Fixed it"

I have managed to get the card working using PCI-E 16x 3.0

I downloaded the original bios for the card from when it was launched at techpowerup and flashed this to the card.

Job done booted first time after the flash and GPU-z confirms it is running Gen 3.

Very happy now...
 
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