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smithy1988

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Which case is the better case out of the Silverstone Sugo Sg01 and the Lian Li V350B.
My first question is can both of these fit in 8800gt or gts's?
Second question-Which one is better in terms of space and cooling i am only interested in 1 optical drive and 1 HDD.
Cheers
 
Thankyou that helps me out a lot. Yea i have seen on the forum that the cpu coolers are a problem. Possibly going to be doing a new build soon so yea i understand that a modular psu is an advantage for the small form. In terms of stock cooling with the Lian Li being slightly bigger does this mean it is also a little bit better with the cooling side of things?
Cheers again

Also another quick question in terms of micro atx boards am2 socket- which ones are the best out at the moment. If possible i would like it to be compataible with the am2+ socket, have 2 x sata connectors for optical and hdd and for it to be compatiable with the 1066mhz ram. I have looked at the following boards listed below- i think i am right in saying that the Abit board will not support the faster ram or the Am2+ socket. So if that is the case, which is the better board between the Gigabyte and Asus, are there any other boards that would meet my requirements?

Asus M3A78-EMH HDMI AMD 780G Micro-ATX (Socket AM2) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H AMD 780G Micro-ATX (Socket AM2) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard
Abit AN-M2HD nForce 520 Micro ATX (Socket AM2) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard

Thanks again any help is appreciated
 
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Cpu wise probably a 6400 x2, the reason i want it to be comptable with am2+ is so i can upgrade at some point in the future.
Is it possible to explain that post in a little more beginner language- i understand pc's but that went straight over my head haha- im guessing some sort of conflict with the cpu chips and the chips onboard the mobos?
 
Thanks mul- i havnt 100% decided on my cpu at this point- is it worth getting an aftermarket cooler compared to a stock one- how much difference do they make in terms of cooling as i know this is an issue with a gaming small form rig. Also whats the reviews and opinions on the amd phenoms?
 
i understand that intel are ahead- However there new processors are going to be using a new socket which would mean changing the mobo in order to upgrade. If i bought phenom at least the mobo i choose would be compatable with the next am2+ socket cpu to come out from them. So yes the amd is more expensive and in terms of performance perhaps lagging slightly. However with amd's next offering at least i could just upgrade the cpu without having to change the mobo aswell?
 
True that mate thanks- Tbh i dont think there is such a thing as future proofing by the time the next upgrade comes around half the componenets will be faster or need updating as the mobo progresses such as say ram speed and then cpu changes alongside sockets and so on. Its really a case of buying the best you can at the moment. My only problem is should i go intel for the sake of having slightly faster clock speeds etc and spend a little bit more, or save the money do with a slightly less expensive amd all be it slightly slower and with the money i save get a slightly better gpu which afterall is the reason im wanting to build a new rig primarily for gaming.

So the question i think im asking am i better off sacrificing the cpu (AMD) for a better gpu (8800gts/gtx)
Or should i get a slightly faster cpu (intel) and get a slightly worse gpu (8800gt)
 
Ok Ok haha. Right well if im going intel i need help! Socket 775 i understand but what i dont understand is the chipsets. There seems to be loads of boards with the 775 socket but what chipset?
If im going intel then the quad Q6600 seems to be the best bet price wise- that correct? Also in terms of performance will that beat the amd phenom 9850 hands down?

Im stil interested in the small form factor- are ther many good intel small form boards?
It needs to be compatable with the faster 1066mhz ram
have 2 sata connections 1 for hdd and 1 for optical.

Cheers guys.
 
Thanks Mul- I looked at the two boards you mentioned and i cant see any mention of the 1066 support with the gigagbyte board- Can you check? I probably wont be overclocking so in terms of the Q6600 and the Phenom 9850 is there much between the two?
I have compiled a spec list for both intel and Amd. theres 20 quid difference in terms of price in favour of intel. However if the gigabyte board for intel does support 1066mhz it looks like the better board and thats around 20 quid more expensive than the asus one. So tbh price wise its much of a muchness- OS price to go ontop of the prices below.
Hope the links work below. Also just to let people know as suggested i will be waiting for the new cards to come out, hopefully this will push down the price and i could maybe manage to get a 8800gtx.



 
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Ok so in summary. Even tho the am2 board says it is future proof it may not be depending on the new phenoms to come out
Whereas the intels are future proof with the models that are already above them. E.g. i could upgrade to a Q4950 for argument sake and this would work fine with the rig above.
Ok in terms of boards then- is it worth dropping the ram and going with the gigabyte board or staying with the asus board and the 1066mhz ram.
 
K thanks a lot then Mul. Iv noticed the new cards are now out- Wow they look impressive and even bigger wow for the price tag! Any ideas when the mainstream cards will be bumped down in price?

Also 1 last query- I have a Samsung tv think its 24 or 26 inch which has a pc input and also a hdmi port. Currently with the card iv got its going from a blue VGA port i think to the Pc input which is also the same sort of port. With the new gpu's that im looking at is there any way of connecting them up to the hdmi port on the tv- The tv is HD ready- so am i right in thinking that using the hdmi port would give be better clarity and possibly even hd outputs?

Basically then do the cards have a hdmi port so i can use HDMi-HDMI or do they have some sort of adaptor supplied. e.g- vga-HDmi adapter on the card and then run a hdmi lead from pc to tv.

Thanks again much appreciated.
 
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Any ideas about the above post re. gpu price drops and the hdmi question.

Another question i have is MATX cpu coolers. I am not going to be overclocking much if at all but as its a matx system i figure it may be worth getting a better cpu cooler than the stock ones.
Which ones are the best that would fit in a lian li v350
 
Thanks again for the inputs. I have already heard of the scythe mini ninja and seen it in peoples signature with small form rigs. I had thought in the back of my mind it was probably the one to go for. Any chance of helping me out mul or anyone with the two above questions;
1) now that the new cards are out how long will it be before the current gpu's fall in price
2) Is it possible to connect the gpu to the hdmi input on my tv/monitor. Currently its just Vga- Vga (pc input on tv) e.g. do the newer cards have a hdmi port on the back or a dvi-hdmi adaptor or something similar.
Cheers
 
Cheers Frank i am currently looking at 8800gts's or 8800gtx's. I have since realised that in the spec list of most cards they have listed the connectors bundled. If they dont have the one im after i can always just go out and buy one.

Anyone got any ideas when the price drops for current gpu's are going to happen now that the 260 and 280's are out
 
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