meanwhile in China...

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https://videocardz.com/newz/innosil...tasy-one-gpu-feature-up-to-32gb-gddr6x-memory

Probably not good for gaming (but right now even affordable Pascal/Polaris performance would be a boon for most gamers) but along with Zhaoxin it's showing a slow but steady rise of Chinese computing hardware.

And it looks like another company just popped up:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/c...s-announces-full-gpu-development-capabilities

2021 and 2022 might suck for GPUs but 2023 could be a very exciting year!

 

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lol they cant release it outside of china, its probably copied intel, nvidia, amd ip.

In the current climate I would rather have more suppliers than be picky... Give me RX580 capabilities for $200 and I will buy it from anyone. It's not like we don't have our homes filled with chinese goods already.

 

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dont think you understand, they wont be able to sell these in retail stores if they have ip infringement. they could sell on auction site etc but due to legal reasons id be shocked if they ended up being stocked by ocuk etc. warranty will probably be non existent and driver support???

Even if it was like you said, you're taking away demand from a billion+ population, which means more GPUs available overall anyway.

 

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2010 wants its crappy chinese electronics memes back.
Keep that attitude while Xiaomi eats Apple and Samsung's pie, I'm sure there are quite a few people here old enough when the same song was played against Japan...

 

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How old would i need to be? i'm pretty old.

The great hope was with enough niceties thrown their way China would take up western values and become a fluffy compliant nation we could farm all the stuff we didn't want to on the cheap, Wake up Mr Chamberlain there will never be anything fluffy about China, they have their own agenda and it doesn't involve your rose tinted view of the world.

Honestly I don't care. Every country has an agenda and it's not like our corporate overlords give a fake penny about throwing people on the streets when it suits their needs anyway. You can thank the very same corporate overlords that hoped to tame a billion people communist country about it, the very same ones that now love scaremongering about it...

China will become fluffier as soon as people will afford the same level of wealth as their western counterparts, until them I fully expect them to exploit every single gap and they would be fools for not doing so.
If you want to blame someone then look at Reagan and Tatcher, a sane government with care for the people would have outlawed most IP transfer under a certain age, but they preferred cheap labour to strong unions so now enjoy the current situation, along with the cheap electronics made by the industries we outsourced.

That said, I don't expect you or anyone to agree with me, I would rather switch back to the merits of the devices than talk about politics.

 

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I could get deep in to a rabbit hole about about what corporations and much smaller employers do to maximise profit while at the same time abusing peoples need to feel good about themselves by making them think its all nice and fluffy, when i reality it drives up costs, drives down wages and stifles innovation and competition.

like Useful idiots people buy in to it hook line and sinker while at the same time wonder why the gap between the rich and the poor keeps growing and why their overall standard of living keeps falling. That's our problem for narcissistically buying in to it all.

But this isn't the place for it and China's only ambition is to be thie global power and their communism is not our fault nor is it tame. Ask Uighur Muslims if they think its tame, or any ethnic or social minority in China.

I'd rather worry about things I can have an impact on and this isn't one of them. What I worry about right now is my wife being ****** off at her ancient GPU and being impossible to replace at decent prices.
As for geopolitics, it's up to the people to stop being keyboard warriors and claw back the rights they stopped fighting for a long time ago.

 

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Sorry boss

On tpoic - another IP is a good thing for the market in general ; I would like VIA to make a comeback and not in the hands of Intel (for example); but its good that PowerVR are *maybe* heading back to the desktop market.

The renaissance of 1990s brands hopefully will bring back some of that vibrant market. Remember when your hardware was left in the dust in 3 years? Back then a 10 year old PC being still viable was unthinkable!