Media-Defenders emails leaked, leads to Pirates Suing..

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First off i hope its ok to link to this news item for it is news after all but, if inappropiate please feel free to edit.

For anyone unaware a company used by most Media Companies called Media Defender recently had over 700mb worth of emails leaked by an outfit now known as MediaDefenders-defenders, containing over 6,600 internal emails by Media Defender employees. Phone conversation between a law enforcement official and employees of MediaDefender, a list of IP addresses MediaDefender uses, and decoy file statistics used against the Gnutella network.

All this contains proof says a well known bittorrent site that "the big record and movie labels are paying professional hackers, saboteurs and ddosers to destroy our trackers."

Now, the legality of bittorrent and what is hosted on it is not the focal point of this thread but, more so the fact that respected media companies:

Twentieth Century Fox, Sweden AB
Emi Music Sweden AB
Universal Music Group Sweden AB
Universal Pictures Nordic AB
Paramount Home Entertainment (Sweden) AB
Atari Nordic AB
Activision Nordic Filial Till Activision (UK) Ltd
Ubisoft Sweden AB
Sony Bmg Music Entertainment (Sweden) AB
Sony Pictures Home Entertainment Nordic AB

(which are being sued by the well known bittorrent site) are using illegal tactics in order to stop illegal file copying. Is this right? About as right as downloading illegal files in itself.
It will be intestesting to see how far this case goes but, i think a lot of it relies upon the leaked emails which could get thrown out in court (as it is unknown how they were leaked) but, I for one hope they win as i think the record companies have, even though it was via a third person gone too far with this.

Please don't derail this thread about warez which may get it closed but stay on the topic at hand please
 
In my opinion the media companies should be able to do whatever they want to stop illegal file copying, it's not like they are trying to destroy bit torrent altogether they just want to stop their property being stolen.
 
Well, from an early age I was always taught "Two wrongs does not make a right".

Using this logic (particularly as it's criminal activity), it's inexcusable for these companies to employ such a strategy.

'nuff said.
 
It would be nice for TPB to win against the record companies :) But I won't go on - I can't be bothered with an argument/intense discussion today ;)
 
Sirrel Squirrel said:
In my opinion the media companies should be able to do whatever they want to stop illegal file copying, it's not like they are trying to destroy bit torrent altogether they just want to stop their property being stolen.
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I don't know what they've been up to exactly, but the op mentions ddos attacks for one. Even if targeted at a bit torrent tracker, these can still take down other sites and services on the internet, not to mention that they are usually launched using the bandwidth and resources of innocent peoples PCs across the internet.

It doesn't matter how just you think their cause is, there is no way this sort of thing can be deemed acceptable behaviour, especially from large corporations.
 
from what i saw when these emails were first leaked i didnt see they'd done anything illegal, yes underhand and there were lots of calls of entrapment, but it isnt
 
Sirrel Squirrel said:
In my opinion the media companies should be able to do whatever they want to stop illegal file copying, it's not like they are trying to destroy bit torrent altogether they just want to stop their property being stolen.
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Where does that stop then? They can break some laws but not others? They can do anything except kill the pirates? Or even further, do we allow Universal Studios Death Squads to roam the western world?
 
Sirrel Squirrel said:
In my opinion the media companies should be able to do whatever they want to stop illegal file copying, it's not like they are trying to destroy bit torrent altogether they just want to stop their property being stolen.
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Many trackers carry legal stuff too (and they're usually faster than the strictly-legal ones). By DDoS'ing the trackers it stops legal files being transferred too. I could understand if their actions only affected the media they were trying to protect but this is harming everything. :)

The hackers also stole all of the source-code for Media-Defender's tools, which I'm sure will be used against them.
 
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