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Anybody know if you can get away with using the Micro SD HC class 10 cards on a Fuji XT10 with the SD adapter. The reason I ask is simply because the Micro versions are about 50% cheaper in some places. Thanks.
 
It will certainly work, although be aware that even though both the SD and MicroSD may be the same brand/family (e.g. Sandisk Exterme), there can be differences in actual speed (i.e. not just going by Class 10).

The typical use case for MicroSD is mobile phones, where write speeds tend not to matter too much, in the case of a digitial camera, write speed can be the limiting factor when it comes to e.g. Burst speed.
 
It should work but will be incredibly slow to the point that it is useless. I have a 32GB microSD card lying around, no idea how I got it because I didn't buy it, must have got mixed up in some boxes when I moved offices. I tried it in my D800 as a test for emergencies and it made the camera basically unusable it was so slow writing, tied the same with D7000 and same problem. A normal SD Class 10 works fine in the d800.

So no, I would save you money and buy a standard SD card, with a good name from a branded store. I find the cheaper SD cards much less reliable.
http://www.camerapricebuster.co.uk/...exar-32GB-1000x-Professional-UHS-II-SDHC-Card


Bargain from WEX. or get 2 of the 16GB version.
 
D.P. said:
It should work but will be incredibly slow to the point that it is useless.
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Nonsense. I've speed tested MicroSD cards through the adapters and without on my USB3 card reader and there was no difference in speed. They weren't far behind my normal SD cards. You must have had a duff card or adapter.
 
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MichaelAwkward said:
Nonsense. I've speed tested MicroSD cards through the adapters and without on my USB3 card reader and there was no difference in speed. You just had a duff card.
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Maybe, it worked, it was just so incredibly slow I would fill the buffer and have to wait ages for it to clear. Going to image review and you would have to wait 10-15 seconds. Useless.

It was a sandisk but no idea of class.
 
Must have just been a crap card then. Afterall, the adapters are literally just pieces of plastic containing traced pinouts between the card formats. There's no reason why they'd slow them down.

For comparisons sake:

Integral ultima 16GB Class 10 MicroSDHC (w/ SD adapter)

Warning: Only 1000 of 15059 MByte tested.
Test finished without errors.
You can now delete the test files *.h2w or verify them again.
Writing speed: 9.50 MByte/s
Reading speed: 87.1 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
Integral ultima 16GB Class 10 MicroSDHC

Warning: Only 1000 of 15059 MByte tested.
Test finished without errors.
You can now delete the test files *.h2w or verify them again.
Writing speed: 9.56 MByte/s
Reading speed: 87.1 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
Integral 32GB ultimaPRO Class 10 SDHC

Warning: Only 1000 of 30203 MByte tested.
Test finished without errors.
You can now delete the test files *.h2w or verify them again.
Writing speed: 14.2 MByte/s
Reading speed: 87.1 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4

A little slower between microSD and SD (could be down to the ultima/PRO difference), but probably not noticeable in most uses.
 
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It is has nothing to do wit the adapters, just that most microSD cards are designed for applications that don't require high speed bandwidth, a modern camera does. Some 6MB/s card just doesn't stand up to the 100MB/s standard SD cards. Sure, if you find a microSD card that is as fast as a good regular SD then it wont make a difference but seems pretty pointless unless you want to share it woith some other device that only accept micoSD cards.
 
I thought your post was in reference to using microSD cards with an SD adapter, not micro SD vs SD generally. Hence my specific reply pointing out that there's no difference between them unless you have a duff adapter.

Regarding SD vs microSD, as the OP has pointed out, the price difference can be significant, and as I've pointed out, there's probably no difference between SD and microSD for the same class of card.

Point being, there's no inherent reason why a microSD should be slower than SD for the equivalent card and therefore if there is a significant price difference, people might as well go for the microSD with adapter over the SD card. Obviously if you require the speed of SD cards that don't yet have an equivalent in microSD form, then of course SD is the way to go... although I see Lexar now offer microSD up to 150MB/s vs SD at 300MB/s, both UHS-II.
 
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I agree I just bought a 64Gb microsd card with 90Mb read/write purely cause it was miles cheaper than buying a sd card. Even came with an adaptor.

Basically, they will be the same speed either way. Of course, just like sd cards, not every card is as fast as another.

a 533x 128Gb sandisk ultra microsd card can be had for £33 atm. Same price as the Lexar 32gb sd card. Okay I know the lexar is a 1000x speed card but I can live withe 533x speed.
 
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Sure if you compare slow cards then maybe there is no difference and microSD cards are cheaper but a quick check for a good quality branded fast card shows the microSD to be more expensive. Lexar 1000x microSD is $40 and the regular SD is $26. maybe other brands are different.
Edit found the lexar 1000x microSD for $32.
 
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D.P. said:
Sure if you compare slow cards then maybe there is no difference and microSD cards are cheaper but a quick check for a good quality branded fast card shows the microSD to be more expensive. Lexar 1000x microSD is $0 and the regular SD is $26. maybe other brands are different
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MichaelAwkward said:
for the equivalent card and therefore if there is a significant price difference
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:p
 
Greebo said:
a 533x 128Gb sandisk ultra microsd card can be had for £33 atm. Same price as the Lexar 32gb sd card. Okay I know the lexar is a 1000x speed card but I can live withe 533x speed.
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As can 99% of people. With these insane speeds there's diminishing returns, especially when the interfaces inside the camera itself becomes the limiting factor. Does any camera even support U3 yet?
 
D.P. said:
Faster cards do make a good difference
http://www.cameramemoryspeed.com/nikon-d810/fastest-sd-cf-card-speed-tests/

Even bigger difference comes when transfer photos to your computer.
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I'm not sure what your point is? None of those cards are UHS-II. I didn't say faster cards weren't better in absolute terms. The fact that the fastest SD card there is from 2011 is also surprising. If you check the individual cards, there is also a significant difference depending on what camera they're used on.

** No competitor talk includes names/links and hinting **

£48 for 2 x 32GB Lexar 1000x SD cards with free USB3 SD reader, for anyone buying storage at the moment.
 
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Linking to photographic suppliers is normally allowed, as is websites like Amazon. Im pretty sure that previously the mods clarified that we can link to cameras and such because ocuk is not a competitor. Moderation has never been consistent here though.
 
MichaelAwkward said:
I'm not sure what your point is? None of those cards are UHS-II. I didn't say faster cards weren't better in absolute terms. The fact that the fastest SD card there is from 2011 is also surprising. If you check the individual cards, there is also a significant difference depending on what camera they're used on.
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Its by no means a comprehensive test of all cards.

The only point i'm making is faster cards do have an impact, so if you compare a slower microSD card to a faster SD card then you will see a difference, which is I agree obvious.

This thread has quickly derailed and I'm sorry, i just spoke about my personal experience and found microSD cards far too slow but it apepars that was just a bad/slow card. If you can genuinely get a microSD card as fast as a regular SD card, and not just the rating but the actual tested read-write speeds, then by all means it makes no difference and you can buy on price. I haven't seen much evidence that micoSd is cheaper though for the same speed but i';v spent the whole of 2 minutes looking so happily to stand corrected.
 
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