Metro: Exodus [E3 2017]

Wouldn't have bought at £50 on steam, and wont buy at £50 on epic.

Same here.

I think £35 is a reasonable price for a PC title (or any other platform, for that matter) but for £50, I'd want it to be some kinda funky collectors edition!

EDIT: Forgot to say the thing that I came into this thread for; Really looking forward to this game! :D
 
Well think about the last 10 years Steam was the only platform for most of the time & PC gaming exploded and was averaging around $30-32billion per year in sales according to the now defunct PC Gaming Alliance. So 30% of 10 x $30-32 billion is a massive amount of money! Then you could also argue between 2004-2009 Steam also made a lot of money! For what Valve got from PC gaming I do not see them giving much back even the used to be free Half Life 2 Nvidia sponsored demo became an item you had to buy eventually :rolleyes: How many games did Valve ever give away I am struggling to think of one. Even EA gave plenty of older games away! I just think Valve got caught being greedy & happy to rake in the easy money & allowed others to take a lot of their core business away now Epic are going aggressive to build their platform up means Valve are going to struggle to convince publishers who want to use Steam @ 30%.

It's not that much really... 30% of £320 billion is £96 billion assuming that every single gaming title purchased was bought via Steam.... Then you've got to factor in the running costs of Valve itself and the platform over that 10 year period, the games they did develop back when they still bothered... It's still a lot of money but nothing like what people try to make out

As for "what they got from PC gaming"... In many ways they created the modern age of PC gaming as far as I'm concerned. It's kind of ironic that one of the first times I recall Steam really being talked about a lot was when none other than Epic Games themselves decided to integrate steamworks into Unreal 3 - people were hugely outraged and annoyed at them because it seemed at the time just like "another 'Games for Windows Live' piece of bloatware" but between that and the Orange Box's offerings it eventually started to gain some traction and then it literally changed the way people purchased and thought about PC gaming forever... many of us had never bought a purely digital copy of a game before Steam (it seemed ridiculous actually - buying a game without the box + CD, wtf?) and now the same people have 500+ game libraries and the idea of buying from a physical store seems archaic... The PC Gaming community owes Valve if anything, not the other way around
 
I remember when it was just fields around here...

And I’ve also had a Steam account for so long my ID is my initials.

Got most of the launchers installed, mostly for redeemed or free games, but Steam is the only one I allow to run at Start Up.

Looking forward to this game but was planning on waiting a few months before picking it up. Looking more likely a year at least now though.
 
I remember when it was just fields around here...

And I’ve also had a Steam account for so long my ID is my initials.

Got most of the launchers installed, mostly for redeemed or free games, but Steam is the only one I allow to run at Start Up.

Looking forward to this game but was planning on waiting a few months before picking it up. Looking more likely a year at least now though.

Like you I have almost all the various launchers installed, however I don't allow any of them to run at start up, I just fire up whichever one I need at the time. I was going to (depending upon initial feedback of the game) pick up Metro from a key site and just pop it into Steam, so really for me nothing has changed, I will still pick it up from a key site the only difference is that I will pop it into Epic rather than Steam.
 
It's not that much really... 30% of £320 billion is £96 billion assuming that every single gaming title purchased was bought via Steam.... Then you've got to factor in the running costs of Valve itself and the platform over that 10 year period, the games they did develop back when they still bothered... It's still a lot of money but nothing like what people try to make out

96 billion quid "isn't that much really"?!

Seems like a lot of money to me. Valve don't even publish their finances, so nobody really knows how much they are worth.

Edit - That's not far off Disney, who also own Marvel, Star-Wars etc
 
To the people saying steam hasn't done anything
Here's a list of things they've done
Team fortress
Dota
Indie support
Linux support
Steam os
Steam link
Card game
Massive controller support
That's just a few things also to people moaning that steam doesn't give away free games like PS4 and Xbox you're right they don't but how many sales do the Xbox and PS4 have? We get a sale every few months with up to90% off of games which beats all of the console sales
Steam is far from perfect but to say it hasn't done anything is a lie and I'd be happy if epic made it an exclusive and lowered the cost but they haven't they're just trying to claim they're the better friendlier company when in reality they aren't
 
Steam Big Picture mode is good as well.

It automatically changes the primary display from my desktop monitor to my TV, so games launch on the TV and then when you exit Big picture mode, it switches the desktop back to the monitor.
 
I'm disappointed Exodus has been removed from Steam. It may only be a one year exclusive but I'm not paying new game prices for a year old game this time next year.

I expect by the time it can be had on Steam next year, there will be key sites doing the steam keys for quite a bit cheaper than new game prices (for those who wish to wait)
 
I expect by the time it can be had on Steam next year, there will be key sites doing the steam keys for quite a bit cheaper than new game prices (for those who wish to wait)

Maybe but I think it'll be more like it was with games like Witcher 3 where key codes are impossible to get for Steam they were all for GOG, only now years later do we start seeing Steam gift versions being sold, still not not codes though.
 
96 billion quid "isn't that much really"?!

Seems like a lot of money to me. Valve don't even publish their finances, so nobody really knows how much they are worth.

Edit - That's not far off Disney, who also own Marvel, Star-Wars etc

Of course it's a lot, "not that much really" was in context of AWPC's post claiming they were sitting on many hundreds of billions... and as I said in my post the actual amount they have is probably still quite a bit less than that figure because it makes further assumptions (like them having zero running costs, and taking 100% of every game sale on PC)
 
Ffs this has now gone up to 38.99 on CD keys from 34.99. They annoy me when they do this....

This is quite normal the price gets highers as the release date gets closer. Makes an incentive to preorder early. However is its a Bad game that doesnt sell well it normally drops by a fair bit. If its a popular title it won't.
 
I'll give it a month.

Literally thousands of posts on FB when they announced the move to Epic and general vibe is that it's not going to sell well. They've ****** a lot of people off with that move. Way to kill a game in one press release.

It'll be like BFV was at launch, expensive but a month later, half price :D
 
I'll give it a month.

Literally thousands of posts on FB when they announced the move to Epic and general vibe is that it's not going to sell well. They've ****** a lot of people off with that move. Way to kill a game in one press release.

It'll be like BFV was at launch, expensive but a month later, half price :D

Now if they had released it on the Epic store at £30 - £35 as a special preorder price then the whole vibe would have been changed and more positive !
 
Now if they had released it on the Epic store at £30 - £35 as a special preorder price then the whole vibe would have been changed and more positive !
Agreed if they dropped the price to £35-40 and said it's cheaper on epic store due to cheaper fees than steam then I'd buy it and be fine but the fact they're charging the same price and making it an exclusive I'm not going to touch the game until it's on steam as I cba to make an account for no reason
 
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