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Right.
I took a gamble and went for an Asus MG279Q.
And it arrived this evening - 2 days earlier than expected - thanks warrior women!
Now, I can spot about 3 or 4 dead pixels straight away (some of these may actually be clusters of more than one), but I had to really hunt for them. Very possibly I won't notice them in day to day use.
IPS glow/Backlight bleed - well I have that rather nasty lower right corner that others have mentioned. It was improved by lowering the brightness from the ludicrous default of 100.
I'm just ruminating on whether it's acceptable or not.
Looping the mouse pointer in circles across the desktop creates almost a complete circle of ghost pointers. Is that normal?
And finally, even connecting using the mini DisplayPort cable, my max refresh rate is 120hz. What am I missing??
Thoughts welcome folks! :)
 
update your drivers to the latest and reseat the cable.

Calibrated brightness is around 31, check the IPS glow then and see does it detract from your viewing.
 
Here's a pic in a dark room of a grab from Elite Dangerous...

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That's not great is it?!



(Sorry - don't know how to do spoiler tags)
 
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If you play dark games, no it's not acceptable, and it seems to be quite common on IPS monitors, it's why I finally got fed up of mine and went with the RoG Swift for gaming as it has no such issue

that looks like back light bleed more than IPS glow, but I've had a few IPS monitors and all of them have had that kind of problem in the corners to a greater or lesser extent and it ruins playing darker games for me

no its not a software issue
 
Its become pretty clear that IPS monitors are not what they used to be in terms of quality. You always had some glow at least but the recent surge in IPS shows they are using cheaper panels to push em out cheaper and this yellow glow is almost becoming standard.

I'm used to IPS and have been using it for many years but if I want 144hz and g-sync or freesync then its probably a better call going to a decent TN panel.

If if bothers you that much and It would be totally understandable if it did then just return it and get something else.
 
Hmm. I thought the defining characteristic of IPS glow was that it was angle dependent.
And this very much is: If I align my head so that it is perfectly perpendicular with that bottom right of the screen, the glow disappears. It's only visible when viewed from the angle that results from my head being perfectly aligned with the centre of the screen; the light from that bottom right corner reaching my eyes along a more acute angle.
Either way, surely better can be expected from a £500 monitor?
If you reckon this is within acceptable limits though I may just have to lump it.
What do you all think?
 
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Yeah it is angle dependant. The issue seems to be that these new panels are just worse off for it. I have a Dell U2711 IPS monitor and it has done me well for years. It has IPS glow, but the proper white glow coming from the corner. As its a whiteish glow and subtle it has never distracted me. Same with the screen I had before.

Simply put and what you normally here from older people... "They just don't make em like they used to" :)
 
Is the glow/bleed that bad to the eyes or is the camera exaggerating it? That's one of the issues that would make me go tn instead although I keep coming back to look at this monitor as I want to experience ips picture quality that people rave about
 
I think the camera was exaggerating it slightly. But it's still not very good is it.
It's annoying because using the monitor now in daytime the screen looks beautiful. Makes me doubt what I was seeing last night. But I have the photographic evidence!

Bleed/glow aside...

Why can I get no higher than 120hz refresh rate??
I have the latest GPU driver. Yes it's nVidia but that shouldn't make a difference.
My only options are 60hz and 120hz (and even that keeps dropping to 119hz for some reason.)
What do I have to do to get the claimed 144hz!?
 
The camera exaggerates it way more than slightly. I can only see glow if I watch a real dark movie in a pitch dark room. The camera is attuned to light so it makes it look way worse than it is!! Do not judge your monitor by the camera. Look at it yourself and decide.

I haven't seen anyone with problems getting 144hz on this monitor. Have you Freesync turned on in the monitor by mistake? Does the Nivida software correctly identify it as a Asus MG279Q?
 
Freesync is off.
nVidia Control Panel identifies it as 'Ancor Communications', but a bit of research show's that's not an error as Ancor is the maker of the panel.
Maybe a 770GTX lacks the capability of a refresh rate that high. But it would be nice to know definitively.
 
The 770 GTX is DP 1.2 so it should be able to drive it no problem. Have you a second monitor attached? in clone mode maybe?

Another thing to try is to go into the windows control panel for the monitor and set it's refresh rate to 144hz.
 
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I have no second monitor. And I've tried to change the refresh rate in both nVidia control panel, and windows control panel. There is just no option higher than 120hz.
Oddly, when I first turn the machine on - before the machine has properly started 'talking' to the monitor - if I turn on the monitor OSD it states a refresh rate of 144hz! Moments later it switches to 120hz. I think the problem is the 770 GTX; and possibly a driver issue rather than a connection issue. But I do have the latest drivers.
But - Oh! - that IPS glow!!!!!
I've never really done the whole RMA thing before. If I do decide to send it back should I go via Asus or the seller (south american river)?
 
Is there anyone near you that you can test the monitor out on? Or even to get a loan of a display port cable?

If it is within 7 days I would go back to where I bought it from for a complete refund.
 
I'd like to add to the TN vs. IPS discussion:
If anyone considers IPS glow as a bad compromise, I don't think they'll find solace in TN monitors, nor VA monitors.

TN:
TN monitors will begin to invert colors on even slighter angles when compared to IPS glow. This is especially bad on the bigger monitors. And IPS glow is just that, GLOW. Whereas TN will actually INVERT the colors. And indeed, IPS glow is mostly visible on dark backgrounds on a dark room, but TN inversion is visible on all colors and even on a bright room. Not sure if a "premium" TN panel can beat a low-grade IPS, but on general terms, on the same price point, TN will pretty much always be worse.

VA:
VA panels don't have glow or color inversion, but they have "gamma shift", when looking at the monitor from off-centre angles. This can in some usage cases be a better compromise than an IPS glow, and the deeper blacks are indeed also very welcome. But traditionally, the color accuracy isn't as good (though still better than TN), and the pixel response times are slightly worse, which usually is alleviated by over-drive. The over-drive comes with its own compromises, though.

Nevertheless, TN monitors usually have faster pixel response times, lower input lag and a slightly cheaper price point. But unless those specific areas are a critical issue, I would strongly recommend staying with IPS (or VA).

Disclaimer:
This is based on the monitors I've actually seen, reinforced with the general consensus of the customer base. But there is indeed a possibility that I've just never seen a good TN or a bad IPS.
 
Thanks melmac.
Why do you think that would be best though, rather than going direct to Asus who would no doubt have a more direct technical understanding of the problem?
 
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