Micro Freezing Getting Worse.

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Hey guys, i've made a thread like this before but since then the problems kinda gotten worse and wondered if anyone else had any suggestions i could do before i lose my rag at myself :(.

So i've branched out and started gaming on more stuff than i usually do (I never gamed much outside of Street Fighter 4, Age of Empires 2 HD and League sometimes) Almost every single game i own on my libary is micro freezing, some worse than others, and it's driving me to the point of insanity! It's hard to explain, and for the most part i can recreate the problem in each game at certain points, but other times its just seemingly random, its making my gaming life a living hell, i have all these games i wanna play that i cant due to these micro freezes.They dont usually last longer than .5 of a second, but they are consistent, and thats what distracts me from immersing myself in them.

Some games i managed to make better, sometimes even remove it, others i just cant and some dont have this problem atall. Take for example Borderlands 2, i had to do a heck of tweaks in the .ini to make it not micro freeze just turning the camera around! Whilst a game like Sleeping Dogs (Arguably more demanding and a lot more powerful rig needed to run) maxes out 120fps solid with no micro freezes atall! Dishonoured micro freezes, but it does it in the same places every time, and usually doesnt do it again if i go back through that area, sometimes it will but most of the time it wont. Half Life 2 does it, not very much, once or twice per map load, i get a .5s freeze, i get this problem in Batman Arkham City a lot more badly, i get it in Mortal Kombat every time i choose a new character and do a special move for the first time, i get it in skyrim just walking around sometimes, i get it in Fallout 3 walking the wastes, DmC every time something spawns or gets killed, Team Fortress 2 randomly. F3AR every time it saves or goes past a checkpoint.

But i get some games that run beautifully at 120 and never stutter, games like Hard Reset, Kane & Lynch 2, Spec Ops The Line, Deus Ex HR, Devil May Cry 4, all of these games are flawless and run beautifully. I've tried everything in my arsenal to fix this, a fresh install of windows onto an SSD, running the games on an SSD, using an older graphics card, using a new Power supply, everything, i can honestly say i cannot find a fault in my rig, temps are fine, everything flows fine, benchmarks dont stutter/micro freeze, everything runs amazingly, the games in question do this regardless of graphical settings and i have absoloutely no idea what to do anymore. A friend of mine said that some games just do micro freeze, especially unreal games due to texture streaming, or checkpointing, and that the games i played dont require much of that so i dont notice it and now im branching out i'm experiencing this problem and its putting me off. Is it normal for games to have micro freezes at certain points? Or for certain things for that matter, or is it my rig, because i have no idea right now.

List of things i have done.
Re installed Drivers, re installed windows onto an SSD, tried it in only basic stuff loaded, removed indexing, removed virtual memory, ran a 12 hour Memtest, ran harddrive health tests, ran benchmarks, checked temps, run stuff at high priority, changed my HDD back to IDE, used a different Graphics Card, turned off High Precision, turned on High Precision (HPET) used optimized defaults on everything, overclocked, underclocked, reapplied thermal paste, got a new CPU cooler (there was never an issue with temps) uninstalled all programs, stopped using the USB sound card, uninstalled all drivers related, got a new Sound Card, reinstalled windows again. I believe it must be problems with certain games because of the fact that i was able to drastically reduce it to the point of not happening in Borderlands 2 and Bioshock Infinite, and help reduce it in Dishonoured but not rid it completely (And lets be honest, the game doesnt really require a powerful rig) My rig is an i7 2600 @3.4ghz, GTX 680 Power Edition 2gb, 8GB Samsung Green RAM, 840 250gb Samsung SSD.

Everything is at clocks, temps on cpu never hit over 60, temps on GPU never hit above 40-50, loads are always good, no CPU spikes, no GPU spikes, nothing i can spot.Some games i can recreate the problem loading the map then walking past a certain point, others run flawlessly like sleeping dogs, kane and lynch 2, spec ops the line etc I'm just hoping its me worrying over nothing, but you never know (Also like to say it happens in l4d2, but not as often, it still happens though, and minecraft is literally unplayable at this point) I hope i can find a fix and help anyone in the future with this post! If anyone has any suggestions, please, i'm so desperate to get this sorted! I honestly think its just how some games handle being coded, and that im worrying too much, anyone else got thoughts? (id like to add, i never micro freeze on desktop, twitch, youtube, apps, flash based games, java based games etc)

At the moment i'm recording a video to show you but it probably wont pick up well on my webcam due to different framerates.
 
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I'm thinking it may be RAM related, even after the Memory Test, i noticed if i turn the Paged pool memory to low on L4D2 it makes the specific freezes/micro pauses a lot smaller and less noticable, still there but yea.

Could it be my RAM? I got this RAM to replace a faulty stick a year ago maybe, its 2x4gb Samsung Green RAM.
 
As said before these micro freezes are most likely just area's/things loading, which will cause a micro freeze, you mention 'certain points' if it's just these areas then it's most likely loading an entity into the game causing a slight freeze.
 
As said before these micro freezes are most likely just area's/things loading, which will cause a micro freeze, you mention 'certain points' if it's just these areas then it's most likely loading an entity into the game causing a slight freeze.

Yea possibly, this is what i imagined, but it's just annoying because as i've gone from game to game, the problem followed and it made me concerned if it was my rig or the games.

Give it like, 20 minutes and i'll paste the link to the video when i upload it. It's just a problem that hasnt happened in recent time until now, i just wanna make sure it's not my computer and its the games, and if ive just been like, unlucky in the past 4-5 games that i've installed that this problem persists.
 
Easiest way to test would be to lower the quality of the game and then seeing if the problem still exists. It could be that you're going to hi-res for the spec as well.



M.
 
Easiest way to test would be to lower the quality of the game and then seeing if the problem still exists. It could be that you're going to hi-res for the spec as well.



M.

Yea i gave this a shot, in all games and it never really made much of a difference atall.

Like, it isnt a case of not being able to hit the framerate, or not having sufficent vram, ram or processing / graphical power, even if i lower the games graphics to nothing including ini tweaks the problem usually persists.

The only game it made a vague bit of difference in was L4D2, it didnt completely remove it but it reduced it significantly (specifically the freeze when the camera scrolls on l4d2)

Videos nearly rendered so i'll be able to upload it.
 
Have you tried a really old game that will give you stupidly high frame rates like Quake 1? If not, try that out and see what happens.
 
Have you tried a really old game that will give you stupidly high frame rates like Quake 1? If not, try that out and see what happens.

funnily enough 2 days ago i replayed the entirety of Half Life and the problem didnt happen.

Just yesterday i completed Sleeping Dogs, on the other end of the graphic spectrum :P And i didnt have a single issue with it!
 
Btw, I thought that was a world class burp in your video. It took me by surprise. Quite a cheeky one.

Hahaha, i felt disgusting, i kept sneezing and burping during the video, but i do have a cold so i blame that!

By the way, all the games par Mortal Kombat were installed on exactly the same make of SSD we have! and i've done a bunch of speed tests and they are all solid :)
 
What are the stock clocks for your 680, and are those clocks higher than what a stock reference would be?

I seem to recall people mentioning stuttering when the 680 / 70 first came out, though I think a driver update remedied many of the issues people were having.
 
What are the stock clocks for your 680, and are those clocks higher than what a stock reference would be?

I seem to recall people mentioning stuttering when the 680 / 70 first came out, though I think a driver update remedied many of the issues people were having.

I got my 680 just as the 700 series was coming out and overclockers were making them cheaper like they usually do.

They are at stock clocks, which i believe is core 1019 and 3004hz memory, 2GB VRAM

In all honesty, it hink these games are just problems loading things into ram, as i say it isnt every game, Hitman Absoloution, Sleeping Dogs, Kane and Lynch, League of Legends, Ultra sf4 all run perfectly, the games in the video just have random micro freezes in some places, its kinda frustrating but i hope it isnt my end!
 
Have you put up a thread like this in other sub forums, like the storage, graphics or general hardware sections? There are some very experienced people there that are really into their hardware, and they will be able to help you far better than someone like myself can.
 
Yea i did put it up a while ago in general hardware and also storage and memory, thinking they may be related, id id all the things they suggested such as Memtests, Hard Drive tests, changing to AHCI (after purchasing my SSD) reinstalling windows onto the SSD etc.

I dont know the rules on uploading multiple threads of the same topic, so i'll leave that down to admins :)
 
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I would try to help but Jesus Christ that is a wall of text OP! :confused:

Disable sound card or drivers see if that helps! ;)

Sounds crazy but sound drivers and cards can cause that problem! :confused:
 
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I would try to help but Jesus Christ that is a wall of text OP! :confused:

Disable sound card or drivers see if that helps! ;)

Sounds crazy but sound drivers and cards can cause that problem! :confused:

Already done this matey! No dice.

Also yes, its a wall of text, but previous threads ive made in the past got complained at that i didnt provide enough information on stuff so this time i'm not giving them that excuse! :)

Can anyone tell me if some games are suppose to micro freeze sometimes? Mainly when its loading in assets in open worlds or autosaving/loading.

Its only like 5-6 games this happens in but id love if someone could clear it up!
 
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It could just be down to game optimization and your hardware.

Dont forget we all use different hardware, my PC is dodgey when it comes to USB stuff.

All our PC`s are our own creations as such and each has its quirks! ;)
 
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