Micro Plastic Fibres - The new Asbestos?

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Not sure if this is more of a GD or SC thread, but here we go..

So the issue of micro plastics is gaining more of a spotlight, with a recent study showing that 83% of worldwide drinking water contained micro plastic fibres.

The problem is that plastic never really degrades, it just breaks down into smaller and smaller parts. For example your car tyres put out plastic dust into the air, washing synthetic fabrics releases fibres into the water, plastic bottles in the seas and rivers again enter the water courses.

These fibres are then inhaled or enter the water and food chains (either directly or via consuming other plants/animals).

It's only a bit of plastic most will probably say, however plastic is very good at absorbing toxic substances. One type of plastic HDPE (used in milk, juice and water cartons) for example is particularly good at leeching estrogen imitating chemicals, known to cause breast and testicular cancer*, poor sperm quality and malformed reproductive tract (to name a few).

*"Incidence rates for testicular cancer are projected to rise by 12% in the UK between 2014 and 2035, to 10 cases per 100,000 males by 2035. 1 in 195 men will be diagnosed with testicular cancer during their lifetime." / "breast cancer incidence [invasive] rates have increased by less than a tenth (3%) in the UK, though this includes an increase in females (5%) and stable rates in males." / "Over the last decade, in situ breast carcinoma incidence rates in females have increased by two fifths (40%) in the UK" - Cancer Research UK

A reasonably lengthy article (with pretty pictures and videos), but worth a read..

https://orbmedia.org/stories/Invisibles_plastics

Personally I think this could be a pretty serious health and environmental issue if left unchecked. With our use of plastic increasing, and [as one of the videos above says] with untested plastics/chemicals being registered daily more needs to be done to regulate materials and research the impact on health.

So what does OcUK think? (I'd appreciate a thought out response rather than just the usual GD "don't care" or "never done me any harm" etc stock responses/loaded comments, ta)
 
Funnily enough I was just taking about this at work recently when someone asked me why food boxes stain so easily.
I wouldn't be surprised if other cancers elsewhere could also be attributed to plastics within water supplies.
Really think we need to focus on fully biodegradable plastics and...ways to remove what's already there. The main issue though is we're a small fish in a very big pond.
 
No doubt that it's a serious problem, one we're a long long way off fixing when you consider the amount of rubbish that "low-lives" still throw out of their car windows.
 
Easiest solution is probably filtration - most of these plastic fibres IIRC are in the 10 micron range while there are plenty of relatively inexpensive technologies that can filter sub 1 micron - though would probably have to be customer premises end to cope with the requirements of filtration throughput.
 
Unless you have any proof, probably best not to allege something like that about a specific company. Not saying you're wrong, I have no idea.

Glass fibre insulation releases fibres that have much the same characteristics as Amosite and Crocidilite, using PCM they look almost identical, similar sizes, although the glass ones are obviously opaque. Does the same thing to your lungs, so yes he is correct about fibreglass insulation (which is what he meant I am sure).
 
Glass fibre insulation releases fibres that have much the same characteristics as Amosite and Crocidilite, using PCM they look almost identical, similar sizes, although the glass ones are obviously opaque. Does the same thing to your lungs, so yes he is correct about fibreglass insulation (which is what he meant I am sure).
So nothing to do with Rockwool then, which was kind of my point? It's really not a good idea for people to target specific brand names online, especially if apparently they don't have a clue about their products. It's how these kind of things end up perpetuating on the internet, people read something and then think it's real and then blindly post it somewhere else.
 
So nothing to do with Rockwool then, which was kind of my point? It's really not a good idea for people to target specific brand names online, especially if apparently they don't have a clue about their products. It's how these kind of things end up perpetuating on the internet, people read something and then think it's real and then blindly post it somewhere else.

People commonly reference rockwool as loft insulation (even when its the glass fibre variant), the point he was trying to make is valid though is what I am saying :P
 
So nothing to do with Rockwool then, which was kind of my point? It's really not a good idea for people to target specific brand names online, especially if apparently they don't have a clue about their products. It's how these kind of things end up perpetuating on the internet, people read something and then think it's real and then blindly post it somewhere else.

Its kind of like vacuum/hoover thing in some places Rockwool has started to be used indiscriminately for all those kind of glass fibre type products.

EDIT: For some reason I thought it was Americans doing it but they use another brand name again.
 
So nothing to do with Rockwool then, which was kind of my point?

although you do have a point, as Lord Jaffa pointed out it's like when people say "this hoover is rubbish". they mean vacuum. hoover is just a brand that i'm sure you know is used so much know people don't even realise they are saying it correctly. this is the same as with Rockwool.
 
although you do have a point, as Lord Jaffa pointed out it's like when people say "this hoover is rubbish". they mean vacuum. hoover is just a brand that i'm sure you know is used so much know people don't even realise they are saying it correctly. this is the same as with Rockwool.
Thanks for that, maybe a fourth person can come and post the same thing just so I get it?
 
Although, I don't think the hoover thing is a great analogy. It's like calling a paving slab 'Tarmac'.
 
Glass fibre insulation releases fibres that have much the same characteristics as Amosite and Crocidilite, using PCM they look almost identical, similar sizes, although the glass ones are obviously opaque. Does the same thing to your lungs, so yes he is correct about fibreglass insulation (which is what he meant I am sure).


Exactly, thank you :)

I'll refrain from calling it Rockwool again, don't want them to go bankrupt because I called it that on a forum :rolleyes:
 
I filmed a few interviews with academics and institutions dealing with micro plastics and it's pretty horrific stuff. The academic led a survey team that sampled the sea bed in the middle of the Atlantic at some ridiculous depth, and 100% of the samples contained micro plastics. Fish eat it, think they're full and simply die (with or without it having absorbed chemicals), and due to the depths there is literally no way to record those effects.

Have a look at the Ellen MacArthur Foundation too, we filmed a representative from there.
 
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