Microsoft already developing Xbox 3

regulus said:
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i think the ppl on this forum been drinking to much caffeine just because m$ release news on talking about designs for the new box doesnt mean 360 has a short shelf life just means there smart in business .
think of it this way 360 been outt a yr and has a good catalogue of games.
ps3 not out and talks of putting europe release dates to sept .
m$ release news of starting designing new box ppl think why wait half yr for overpriced ps3 buy 360 make do with it.xbox3 will be along in 2 yrs.
 
dustiestrat said:
i think the ppl on this forum been drinking to much caffeine just because m$ release news on talking about designs for the new box doesnt mean 360 has a short shelf life just means there smart in business .
think of it this way 360 been outt a yr and has a good catalogue of games.
ps3 not out and talks of putting europe release dates to sept .
m$ release news of starting designing new box ppl think why wait half yr for overpriced ps3 buy 360 make do with it.xbox3 will be along in 2 yrs.
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I can assure you that you won't see Xbox 3 in two years from now. I reckon sometime 2011 or beyond
 
regulus said:
I can assure you that you won't see Xbox 3 in two years from now. I reckon sometime 2011 or beyond
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Hmm if MS do the same as with the 360, they will leave a four year gap between consoles so the new one will come out around 2009.
 
dirtydog said:
Hmm if MS do the same as with the 360, they will leave a four year gap between consoles so the new one will come out around 2009.
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They are pushing a market advantage at the moment, if I was them I'd be looking to get 360 Mk2 out soon provided it had backwards compatibility to keep ahead of Sony.
 
I dont usually read the "comments".. because you often can guarantee a lower IQ on those.. but i did read them.. and i did come across this..

The prices had better come down DRASTICALLY for consoles in that amount of time. I have priced the WII, PS3 and XBox360.

All but the WII are WAAAAAAAY out of my price envelope, and so are the games. That is coming from someone who is willing to spend 10,000 dollars on a PC.
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I was thinking, ok thats fair enough, the Wii is the cheapest.. although not by a great deal when you look at the bundles compared to 360 for what your getting. But then, they ruin it with this insane comment at the end.. they are willing to spend 10K on a PC, but the $550~? for a 360 is out of the question.. :confused: weirdos..
 
dirtydog said:
Hmm if MS do the same as with the 360, they will leave a four year gap between consoles so the new one will come out around 2009.
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If I was them i'd milk the 360 for all its worth. No point spending (and losing) billions only to render your product obsolete in 2 years from now. They have the head start they want on Sony. Even on the software side, game engines that make total use of more than one core aren't even on the horizon yet. I'm not talking about offloading some functions to a second core, I'm talking about total use of all available cores.

Personally I'd like to see a new console soon, realistically, I'm sure we won't.
 
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regulus said:
If I was them i'd milk the 360 for all its worth. No point spending (and losing) billions only to render your product obsolete in 2 years from now. They have the head start they want on Sony. Even on the software side, game engines that make total use of more than one core aren't even on the horizon yet. I'm not talking about offloading some functions to a second core, I'm talking about total use of all available cores.

Personally I'd like to see a new console soon, realistically, I'm sure we won't.
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I see *** 360 mk2 as more like the slimline PS2. I'd like a smaller, quieter and cooler 360...
 
I think the 360 will be around longer than the original Xbox.

The Xbox was always fighting a losing battle against Sony. This time MS seem to have got it right and may even do better than Sony.
 
Chrisss said:
I think the 360 will be around longer than the original Xbox.

The Xbox was always fighting a losing battle against Sony. This time MS seem to have got it right and may even do better than Sony.
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Agreed.
 
i believe MS will keep the pressure rolling and release a good whilebefore Sony release the PS4. I think 4 years is perfectly acceptable timeframe, and would put Sony under serious pressure - just as we get good availability of PS3s, and they start to become common, i would expect talk of the new Xbox to be filtering through.
 
To be honest, it would make a lot of sense to make the next xbox simply an enhancement of the current model...

A bit like upgrading a pc, keep the same OS, controllers, and then use a more powerful CPU and GFX with enhanced memory architecture...

Yeah ok, so it will run DX12 but it will still run DX9 games, as well as the new DX12 games, just like a PC...

Everything else can simply be keeping certain items in the console rather than having them as plugins... wifi for example...

That way you can have much more chance of retaining backwards compatibility...

Wii controllers are a mere novelty, there is nothing about the Wii controller that couldn't be implemented on any other console if the software support is available... it isnt a function of the console, its a function of the controller/interface...

Main problem is, all that motion sensing is actually pretty expensive to implement, making additional controllers more expensive...

The main reason PS2 was so popular is that it had backwards compatibility and was pretty much the best available at launch... This time MS got the 360 out well ahead, and the PS3 doesnt offer enough to make people upgrade from a 360...

If MS can keep up the momentum, retaining backwards compatibility, so that people don't have to retain their old consoles, then they really could sign the playstations death warrant... just like Sony did to Sega...

The main advantage we have from MS is that the Xbox now shares a LOT with the PC.. That is gonna make games more portable, and MS's objective of getting Windoze games alongside Xbox games in Blockbuster a genuine reality... That in turn increases revenues for games designed for Xbox and PC, reduces lead times for those 2 platforms, and is a win win for everyone..

Now, if only MS could introduce "XBox Live for PC" so that PC gamers can join Xbox gamers online...

Could be the next step to reduce PC piracy..

:cool:
 
VIRII said:
I see *** 360 mk2 as more like the slimline PS2. I'd like a smaller, quieter and cooler 360...
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exactly what I want to see! especially as I sold mine for a great price knowing I was getting a wii, and am feeling the need for annother 360! I think I will hang on a bit longer though, loving the wii at the moment!
 
Dr Who said:
Now, if only MS could introduce "XBox Live for PC" so that PC gamers can join Xbox gamers online...

Could be the next step to reduce PC piracy..

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Well they've already got a few games that PC gamers can play against Xbox 360 players so it's a start.
 
Smit said:
Well they've already got a few games that PC gamers can play against Xbox 360 players so it's a start.
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Cool, didnt know that...

The thing is, it makes a lot of sense... reduces development costs, and enhances the attraction to developers to support the 360.. Maybe even reduces the attraction of developing games "solely for a.n.other platform" making the 360 more attractive...

:D
 
the Mk2 will be out in 6 months to a year to aid in the battle with PS3 but it will be functionally the same (albeit cooler and quieter)

The next generation of Xbox will be a good 3 - 4 years away from now, how long did the original xbox take to die 3 years or so? With a success which is the X360 it will be easily as long (to make the most back possible on the gigantic investment in developement etc) but dont be getting fooled into expecting the same type of controllers etc, after all this is where automatic profit comes from for MS, all the licences for add-ons with a slightly different connector so you have to buy everything again for the new console
 
Dr Who said:
The main advantage we have from MS is that the Xbox now shares a LOT with the PC..
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It does? :confused: Surely its architecture is totally different. Assuming you are referring to the Xbox 360. The Xbox was essentially a PC, with its x86 Celeron and so on, but still most of the Xbox's best games never came to the PC. Why do you think it will be different with the 360, which has an alien architecture?
 
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