I don't like it either but the start menu has seemed to return to normal on my laptop.
*** Microsoft Windows 11 Thoughts & Discussion Thread ***
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Strange my laptop has gone back to the normal start menu but my pc is still showing the new start menu.
Randomly in the middle of using my gaming PC the Start Menu updated to the new one, in typical MS fashion a **** the end user approach.
I had high hopes when I read the blurb about the new Start Menu but in again typical MS fashion it is a complete farce and less useful even than the original launcher style... complete and utter fail - how the **** do they end up without the ability to have customisable categories and the ability to set the group size of categories so it is actually useful! mind boggling stupidity.
I now have an even less useful Start Menu with no way to fix it without installing 3rd party software or forcing it to revert.
EDIT: Also boggles my mind that this passed any kind of user/beta testing without people outright calling it stupid.
EDIT2: This is seriously annoying me now - as force removing the all section just leaves you with less usable tiles than before and I'd already maxed it out before, while leaving a huge empty space... seriously how on earth did this go ahead it is just inept at every level.
I had high hopes when I read the blurb about the new Start Menu but in again typical MS fashion it is a complete farce and less useful even than the original launcher style... complete and utter fail - how the **** do they end up without the ability to have customisable categories and the ability to set the group size of categories so it is actually useful! mind boggling stupidity.
I now have an even less useful Start Menu with no way to fix it without installing 3rd party software or forcing it to revert.
EDIT: Also boggles my mind that this passed any kind of user/beta testing without people outright calling it stupid.
EDIT2: This is seriously annoying me now - as force removing the all section just leaves you with less usable tiles than before and I'd already maxed it out before, while leaving a huge empty space... seriously how on earth did this go ahead it is just inept at every level.
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Best of a bad job - short of installing something like StartAllBack 
I generally try to avoid 3rd party customisations.
Lost several useful pins like WinSCP and lots of wasted space.
Absolutely woeful effort on MS's part - having customisable categories which could contain anything from 1 to essentially infinite pins should really be the basic minimum level they attain to.
I generally try to avoid 3rd party customisations.
Lost several useful pins
like WinSCP and lots of wasted space.Absolutely woeful effort on MS's part - having customisable categories which could contain anything from 1 to essentially infinite pins should really be the basic minimum level they attain to.
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I don't like the fact it's necessary to install StartAllBack, but honestly in this instance it's worth it to get back a start menu and taskbar that are useableBest of a bad job - short of installing something like StartAllBack
I was literally just updating a Visual Studio component while doing something nearby and noticed the fans still ramping up and "HDD" activity light going mad after it should have stopped - though that isn't unusual with the amount of background **** Windows does when it thinks the system is idle and came back to find the new Start Menu in effect which means I then had to mess about for half and hour tweaking it back to something barely usable.
and came back to find the new Start Menu in effect which means I then had to mess about for half and hour tweaking it back to something barely usable.
Windows, it seems, can become too intrusive at times. Recently, within the last week, something went wrong with my Start menu and it continued to close with "StartMenuExperienceHost.exe" errors, this has happened previously with one of MS's updates.
I hadn't installed StartAllBack at that point, just having restored a back up image of 11. Rather than going through the motions of fixing that, StartAllBack is now back to running.
For me, I just accept that SAB is just needing to happen, enjoying some aspects of its Explorer choices as well.
I had needed to restore a previous image of W11 due to Gigabyte's Control Centre automagically updating certain chipset drivers that really messed things up, took me a while to realise that the issue this time seemed to be GCC. I'll just accept having rainbow coloured RGB on my RAM
I do wish that Windows Dynamic Lighting was better supported.
I hadn't installed StartAllBack at that point, just having restored a back up image of 11. Rather than going through the motions of fixing that, StartAllBack is now back to running.
For me, I just accept that SAB is just needing to happen, enjoying some aspects of its Explorer choices as well.
I had needed to restore a previous image of W11 due to Gigabyte's Control Centre automagically updating certain chipset drivers that really messed things up, took me a while to realise that the issue this time seemed to be GCC. I'll just accept having rainbow coloured RGB on my RAM
I do wish that Windows Dynamic Lighting was better supported.
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Has there been a windows feature update in the last 2 years that brought anything good to the computer? It’s only ever unwanted bloat, or trash-level appearance changes.
Do they genuinely want people to move to other operating systems?
Do they genuinely want people to move to other operating systems?
I was wrong about there being less max pins than before with the Start Menu update - just with the change in layout I couldn't reproduce my old layout and have to remove 2 pins to maintain a clear groupings of items and somehow miscounted because of that!
Stop apologising for it and get StartAllBack installed
This was most likely Visual Studio itself. I've noticed it going mad after setup/updates are complete over the last few months.
You do get stuff like .net optimization after a VS update but this was after that stuff has usually calmed down again.
It does seem to involve a lot more post setup activity these days though
I half suspect it is AI related telemetry.
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