*** Microsoft Windows 11 Thoughts & Discussion Thread ***

YouTube's AI is removing 'dangerous' videos that show Windows 11 workarounds for local accounts and unsupported hardware. :mad:

YouTube's AI moderator pulls Windows 11 workaround videos, calls them dangerous - The Register

Creators baffled as videos on local accounts, unsupported PCs vanish under ‘harmful acts’ rule​

Is installing Windows 11 with a local account or on unsupported hardware harmful or dangerous? YouTube's AI moderation system seems to think so, as it has started pulling videos that show users how to sidestep Microsoft's setup restrictions.

Tech YouTuber Rich White, aka CyberCPU Tech, was the first to go public about the issue on October 26, when he posted a video reporting the removal of a how-to he published on installing Windows 11 25H2 with a local account instead of a Microsoft account. In the video, White expressed concern that YouTube's automated flagging process may be the root of the problem, as he found it hard to believe that "creating a local account in Windows 11 could lead to serious harm or even death," as YouTube reportedly alleged when it removed the video.
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Like one of the comments say the A.I. is just doing it's masters bidding. However misguided (to us) that is.

The futures looking great, innit. /s
 
Rumors about Windows 12 have been heating up but Microsoft has confirmed that the next major update is still called Windows 11 25H2, not Windows 12.
However, industry insiders suggest Windows 12 could arrive in late 2025 or early 2026
 
Can't see 12 being an improvement on 11 for those who dislike the direction Windows has headed.

It will just be even more in the Cloud and AI than 11.
 
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Murphy said:
Can't see 12 being an improvement on 11 for those who dislike the direction Windows has headed.

It will just be even more in the Cloud and AI than 11.
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Agreed. Soon t the ratebthey are going I will just use it purely for gaming and use a Linux build for everything else.

Eventually will just dump it I think. Sad that. Have always been a windows guy.
 
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Agreed. Soon t the ratebthey are going I will just use it purely for gaming and use a Linux build for everything else.

Eventually will just dump it I think. Sad that. Have always been a windows guy.
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Not enough people have revolted at the changes. It's almost as if they have to follow the unwritten rule of making every other major release crap. I really don't care about sticking to any one OS. I do prefer Windows since it's been everywhere but maybe this will make the push to other OS's speed up and give Linux more users.
 
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Windows 11 feels like it was designed by people who’ve never used a computer

I’m honestly done pretending Windows is “modern.” It’s not modern: it’s bloated, slow, and designed by UX interns who think clicking three extra times makes things cleaner.

I fired up my old Pentium III the other day: 600 MHz, 192 MB RAM, Windows 2000 originally, but I threw XP on it years ago. Guess what? That thing boots faster than my €2000 Windows 11 work laptop.
No joke. I’m in Age of Empires II faster on that twenty-year-old fossil than on my “AI-enhanced business-grade machine.”

Why? Because XP and 2000 did one thing modern Windows forgot how to do: they just did what you told them.
No telemetry, no “Copilot,” no “we’ll finish your updates later” nonsense. Just boot, load, go.

Windows 7 was the peak: perfect balance between form and function. Then someone at Microsoft said, “What if we hide every option behind three menus and call it minimalism?” And boom,here we are.
  • Backspace no longer goes back in Explorer or browsers.
  • Context menus are half-empty unless you click “Show more options.”
  • Taskbar? Castrated.
  • Sleep mode? Doesn’t actually sleep, it just pretends while draining your battery.
  • Hyper-V? Can’t even pause its own damn VMs before shutting down the host.
It’s like they intentionally trained users to stop expecting things to respond instantly. You press something and Windows goes: “Hang on, let me think about that.”

And don’t get me started on “modern standby.” That thing is a joke. My laptop fans spin at 2AM because apparently it needs to “stay connected.”
Connected to what, exactly? My suffering?

It’s all marketing-driven design now. Nobody wants lean, desktop-first UX anymore — they want “cross-platform coherence” so your desktop looks just as useless as your phone.
We used to have real control. Now it’s just AI assistants, animations, and fake simplicity wrapped around a laggy mess of services fighting each other.

I’ve reached the point where SteamOS feels more like a proper desktop than Windows does. KDE Plasma boots faster, responds instantly, doesn’t try to upsell me cloud garbage, and actually listens when I click something.

So yeah, I’m done. Keep your “modern experience packs” and “Copilot suggestions.”
I’ll be over here, playing Cossacks European wars on a Pentium III that still outperforms your so-called flagship OS.
 
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Agreed. Soon t the ratebthey are going I will just use it purely for gaming and use a Linux build for everything else.
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That's how I started out on Linux on my home machines when MS started en****tification after Windows 7.

I'm at the point now where I still dual boot, but the time spent using Windows is only for specific things (VR and the odd game that doesn't work well with Linux).

As @snowdog has posted above modern Windows isn't designed with the user first. I'm not on some crusade to rid myself of MS (supporting their products has paid my bills) but just to use what's best & most convenient for me, and modern Windows isn't it.

Edit - Also obsoleting perfectly good machines for no good reason with Windows 11 system requirements really boiled my **** for some reason, it's absolutely unnecessary and wasteful.
 
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I think at this point a lot of what is keeping a (significant) minority on W11 is the application compatibility with Linux. For example if Fusion 360, DxO PureRAW and Lightroom Classic worked flawlessly on Linux I'd switch in a heartbeat. There are other examples for other people, but I'm not wedded to the OS anymore, Linux is viable and friendly.
 
I'd have long been off if it wasn't for the fact I use a lot of legacy, esoteric, etc. Windows software which doesn't have a Linux version or work well on Linux. Windows 11 is absolutely trash for hardcore productivity, etc. uses if you need an OS you can really rely on.

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Sleep mode? Doesn’t actually sleep, it just pretends while draining your battery.
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This has been par for the course with Windows to be fair since the beginning - Windows has never done sleep well.
 
Old School hibernation was fine, dump RAM content in hyberfil.sys, you can even turn the psu off no problem on your desktop for a week and it will come back fine.
Old sleep used to use a small bit of power to keep RAM online, BUT, it did not ****** put the CPU in high power mode. I am baffled by the ammount of time I close my lid and next day the battery is 1%, or I'd be falling asleep and like out of nowhere, the cpu fan goes BONKERS and it is doing god knows what. But it not always, it is like 1 in 4 or 5 times.
The other times it behaves normally. Not a clue what causes that nonsense.

I end up shutting down the laptop altogether these days...
Makhaira said:
I think at this point a lot of what is keeping a (significant) minority on W11 is the application compatibility with Linux. For example if Fusion 360, DxO PureRAW and Lightroom Classic worked flawlessly on Linux I'd switch in a heartbeat. There are other examples for other people, but I'm not wedded to the OS anymore, Linux is viable and friendly.
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Agreed, those few niche things, in game land Civilization 3 springs to mind, somehow none of the proton versions seem to do that well. Yes it starts, but there are big issues (audio and visual).

I am quite annoyed by the stacking of framework upon framework in webapps as well...

I miss the internet and computers from 2001-2002 ish, peak times those MSN/Windows Messenger, MSN gaming zone, Gamespy, Flash, simpler times :).
 
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the cpu fan goes BONKERS and it is doing god knows what
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This is something which drives me mad with Windows 10 and 11, not just in sleep, when a system is sitting idle it should not be regularly ramping up the fans with background activity - on the mini PC I use as a backup/local cloud, etc. it doubles the idle power use! compared to Windows 7 or Ubuntu unless I go to down to tame it.

MS talk a lot about "energy efficiency" and "carbon footprint" but it isn't something the developers embrace themselves...
 
At work not only do we have an active Windows Defender, but also SentinelOne. So 2 Realtime AV's... Doing windows update on a core ultra 7 causes those 2 programs to eat 40% cpu time, ridiculous. On Older I7's i've seen systems grind to a halt doing nothing but windows ******* update.
 
I had to nuke Windows Update, fortunately it is still possible, on some of my older portable devices, which are still find hardware wise for what they are, as if I was turning one on to quickly do something you could almost guarantee Windows Update would kick in disruptively...

Which isn't what I want to do as being portable systems I like to have things like security patches installed in a timely manner.

EDIT: Talking about Windows 10/11 being a pain - I was experimenting on one system trying to install newer drivers from a different manufacturer for a piece of hardware as the original manufacturer takes forever to release new versions, but unfortunately they don't quite work properly, had all kinds of issues after that as despite uninstalling and reinstalling older/correct drivers Windows would immediately automatically reapply the newer driver from the driver store - fortunately going in the old way and using "Let me pick" works... for now... until Windows thinks it knows better again.
 
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Anyone encountered Task Scheduler issues on W11?

Just moved a load of tasks from one of our Windows 7 "services" machines - had 2 tasks not start due to incorrect username (despite it showing the correct one), 1 task that won't rerun automatically if failed (even though it knows the task has failed), and 4 tasks that show no history (despite the "all task history" being enabled, and other tasks displaying history correctly).

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And 4 tasks that show no history (despite the "all task history" being enabled, and other tasks displaying history correctly - solved this one, tasks were in a folder that had & in the name. :)
 
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