*** Microsoft Windows 11 Thoughts & Discussion Thread ***

Maybe hard to believe for some but I do not have any issues with Win11, it's fast,. smooth and just works on my setup:

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No resource hogging either.
 
I am thinking we will get SteamOS around the time Steam Machines release which from what I understand will be Q1 next year. So basically not that far away.

As soon as that is out I will be doing a clean install of windows and just using it for anything that does not work on SteamOS.

Maybe MS will get the message in a few years once it bleeds users. Might be too late by then though, as unless Valve **** it up, why return?
 
I'm not sure MS care that much about the users of their products any more, at least not in the way it used to. Like a lot of big companies nowadays it's all about the stock prices.
 
Murphy said:
I'm not sure MS care that much about the users of their products any more, at least not in the way it used to. Like a lot of big companies nowadays it's all about the stock prices.
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Agreed. Not where the money is. But they could be selling us some kind of premium gamer edition one which strips out all the crap if they wanted. Just sell it. £99 I think would be a fair price and i would pay that. But I would want zero bloat, no ai, no telemetry etc.

But they wont do that, not any time soon anyway.
 
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Because their thought process is why get a one off payment of £99 when they can force people to pay £99 each year for a subscription to some sort of online only service.
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Yeah I get that. And can you blame them when you get users like mrk lapping it up? :p

All I am saying is an addition to what they are doing, offer a Gamers Edition version at a cost. Those who want to get away from all the ai crap and bloat etc have an option. That way they don't lose users.

Most would not want to pay for it anyway and use the normal free version they want you to use. Just give us an option.
 
TNA said:
Yeah I get that. And can you blame them when you get users like mrk lapping it up? :p

All I am saying is an addition to what they are doing, offer a Gamers Edition version at a cost. Those who want to get away from all the ai crap and bloat etc have an option. That way they don't lose users.

Most would not want to pay for it anyway and use the normal free version they want you to use. Just give us an option.
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Basically what the professional edition should be, personally I don't care what they do with the home edition if I can pay extra to not have to deal with that ****. Though I'm not a fan of subscription models for OSes, at least not the main OS itself. They'd also have no trouble making money from subscription features/extras if they approached it the right way and had some competent people working on the store / package management side of it.
 
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Windows 11 is so hateful in a mini PC context - been setting up a new mini PC for a project - it was sitting there at 2.93W average (CPU package) until Windows cottoned on to it being unattended and has now been sitting there for nearly an hour at 27W average with the CPU at nearly full frequency and fan ramped up doing background stuff...
 
The fan on both my mini-PCs was active a lot more on Windows, than on Mint. I rarely turn them off, so it was always weird to hear the fans going wild every couple of hours when it *should* be idle. I could understand it once a week maybe for updates, but just what is windows doing? This is with debloat script ran and some services disabled.
 
It isn't doing anything. No resource hogging or nefarious things going on at all. Mrk said so! :p
 
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Is there a dedicated thread to discuss the new start menu in 25H2 anywhere on here? I had been almost semi looking forward to it with it's "category" groupings, but now it has unlocked itself on my laptop I can see it is actually *worse*. I didn't think that would be possible. With it's seemingly random sorting of what it thinks a programs category should be, and you have no way that I can see of moving things between categories, and you can't even change the order of things within a category. It is just a random jumble, worse than useless. Sop is there a thread on here which hopefully has all the secrets as to how to make the best use of this new menu? There seems to be nothing on youtube. I was expecting multiple guides etc and there is nothing.
 
I have still not got around upgrading from 23H2. Still annoyed at their scummy move to stop supporting it.

What you all doing. We know mrk just installs it and leaves everything on default. But for the rest of you privacy focused people. What route did you go?

I have seen scripts one can run from github, but not comfortable with that. The other option i see if using rufus.

Do you guys leave tpm2 on? Can have it off and still run windows 11 fine if using rufus to create bootable usb for example.

I could wait a few months and just use this windows and hope steam os comes out or go linux now. But can't be asked going linux when i feel steam os is around the corner.
 
TNA said:
I have still not got around upgrading from 23H2. Still annoyed at their scummy move to stop supporting it.

What you all doing. We know mrk just installs it and leaves everything on default. But for the rest of you privacy focused people. What route did you go?

I have seen scripts one can run from github, but not comfortable with that. The other option i see if using rufus.

Do you guys leave tpm2 on? Can have it off and still run windows 11 fine if using rufus to create bootable usb for example.

I could wait a few months and just use this windows and hope steam os comes out or go linux now. But can't be asked going linux when i feel steam os is around the corner.
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If you're willing to spend a little time and don't just remove everything, I recommend building your own ISO from UUP dump. Admittedly this isn't overly thorough and just removes apps from the ISO image, meaning you don't have pre-installed bloat from the second Windows is installed. But it is far safer than what some scripts do, which seems to be all or nothing with the removing of apps and telemetry - only for the end-user to find out the consequences of running unknown scripts later on.

I used to be an supportive of MSMG's ToolKit (unable to provide a link, but Google it) and used it myself to trim some of the fat from Windows images. But it's not been updated for over a year now and to be honest, I'm not sure that it ever will be now. :(
 
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I used to be an supportive of MSMG's ToolKit (unable to provide a link, but Google it) and used it myself to trim some of the fat from Windows images. But it's not been updated for over a year now and to be honest, I'm not sure that it ever will be now. :(
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I used to use this as well, the person who managed it had to step away and no one knows if they will be returning
 
TNA said:
What did you do on your recent install? Normal in install?
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Yeah, I used the normal 25H2 ISO from Microsoft and then ran stull like Christ Titus tech tool and O&O Shut up.

I also ran the scrips below for the AI crap, This is my main gripe with windows 11 and my main reason why I stuck to 23H2 for so long but with Microsoft killing it off I had to update.

Would be worth a look at the scripts before running it though to make sure your ok with what it does

github.com

GitHub - zoicware/RemoveWindowsAI: Force Remove Copilot, Recall and More in Windows 11

Force Remove Copilot, Recall and More in Windows 11 - zoicware/RemoveWindowsAI
github.com github.com

Video as well

 
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