Mini/micro LED QHD monitors

[michty_me]

Doom is the fastest pace FPS I've played, and I didn't see ghosting on the old Samsung VA. Also the drop off issue with VA probably only when your head is on the left of the screen say 1" from the bezel and you look to the far right, then notice drop off. But with head in the middle it's fine.

More even black levels with VA...so IPS glow is pretty distracting.

that's mine

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/aoc-27-q27g3xmn-bk-fast-va-mini-led-2560x1440-1ms-2-hdmi-dp-ha-mon-aoc-04676.html

That's good to know.
I was actually swaying between the KTC and AOC agon pro ag274qzm.

My main monitor is always directly in front of me now, no odd sitting compared to when I got my IPS screen.
If/when I make the purchase, I'll likely make my LG my secondary monitor and remove my 1080p 75hz current monitor.

 

[t2na]

I played Doom Eternal as fast as I could and couldn't see smearing on the old Samsung VA, generally it's the slow panning which showed up the worst, and even then it's only specific things, like Tomb Raider in a corridor, side scrolling. And in RDR, at night side scrolling with the mountains

Unless I have a save game of the same area, it's difficult to come across it.

Love the idea of you shotgunning cans of monster in order to play a game as fast as possible to spot smearing.

Like I said, it’s very person dependent. Some people don’t notice VRR flicker, some people don’t notice tearing.

I had a 25G3ZM 1080p 240hz VA monitor for a short period whilst I worked away and whilst I actually found the monitor to be the best I’ve used in terms of how nice it felt on my eyes, the black smearing and scan lines were visible and noticeable (to me).

 

[hornetstinger]

Can see it with the UFO test site however that probably is worst case scenario .

I remember trying the UFO test site on a MSI? IPS monitor in a high street retailer it did appear to have very little trailing .

Samsung C32HG70 Review - TFT Central

New one has about twice as good as near black ghosting ?

AOC Q27G3XMN Review

The AOC Q27G3XMN is a 27-inch budget gaming monitor. Competing with the Acer Nitro XV275U P3biipx, it's rather unique for a low-cost monitor as it features Mini ...

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[tamzzy]

I played Doom Eternal as fast as I could and couldn't see smearing on the old Samsung VA, generally it's the slow panning which showed up the worst

I think ghosting shows up the worst when the frame rate dips and when the change is from dark to light.

 

[Grim5]

Last I heard microLED consumer monitor tech was years away.

Probably 2030+

Currently no one is working on them, they are still trying to make smaller MicroLED TV's before they can even think about monitors

With MicroLED, the technology curve is like the opposite of old TV tech, where its easier to make very large MicroLED screens that it is to make smaller ones, so they started out by building 200 inch MicroLED screens and every year they are able to make it a bit smaller and smaller

Cost is still very prohibitive; the main issue is that you have millions of LED's on the screen and Murphy's law quickly takes over and thousands and thousands of those LED's are DOA and don't turn on, then the panel goes back into the factory and a machine has to replace the dead LED's one by one, they don't just throw the panel away they keep replacing LED's until they have 8 million that work. So its a very weird production line and every MicroLED is basically getting custom made due to how many attempts is required to get working LED's and because MicroLED panels for now are basically custom made, the cost is insane

 

[tamzzy]

@michty_me did you get a monitor in the end?

 

[michty_me]

@michty_me did you get a monitor in the end?

No I didn't mate. I ended up reading the CES articles about up and coming mini LED's so parked it for a few months.
Then blew the budget and more buying a new AVR and speakers

 

[tamzzy]

@michty_me well if you do change your mind, @MartinPrince came to calibrate my my Xiaomi and apparently it's one of the best IPS panels he's done.
Once calibrated: 99.9 srgb, 90.6% Adobe, 98% dci-p3
Max delta-e was something small like 1.16 with an average of 0.2 or something like that.

 

[michty_me]

@michty_me well if you do change your mind, @MartinPrince came to calibrate my my Xiaomi and apparently it's one of the best IPS panels he's done.
Once calibrated: 99.9 srgb, 90.6% Adobe, 98% dci-p3
Max delta-e was something small like 1.16 with an average of 0.2 or something like that.

That is pretty good! Impressive!
The new models appear to all be 5k/1440p dual resolution so will be coming in at a hefty price.

 

[t2na]

That is pretty good! Impressive!
The new models appear to all be 5k/1440p dual resolution so will be coming in at a hefty price.

My main concern with 5k/1440p dual is the 5k not playing nice with the PS5 Pro but otherwise they do look really nice.

Looks like LG and MSI are releasing Mini-LED models - and Asus have a model that's going to be slightly cheaper but without the mini-LED backlight.

 

[michty_me]

My main concern with 5k/1440p dual is the 5k not playing nice with the PS5 Pro but otherwise they do look really nice.

Looks like LG and MSI are releasing Mini-LED models - and Asus have a model that's going to be slightly cheaper but without the mini-LED backlight.

I didn't actually think of the PS5 Pro and compatibility but we shall see soon enough I would imagine.
After reading reviews of the monitors discussed earlier in the thread, Support is essentially non-existent so I would prefer to go with a more well known brand and hopefully better support for issues down the line.
Some of the articles I read on the new items from CES seem to suggest they will mostly all be using the same panel for the mini LED which appears to ring true with the specs going around.

 

[t2na]

I didn't actually think of the PS5 Pro and compatibility but we shall see soon enough I would imagine.

I imagine at some point Sony would release an update to support 5k res (considering the PS5 'supports' 8k) - but if it's anything like 1440p it'll end up taking years. It took Sony so insanely long to support 1440p as a 'native' resolution for the console to output to.

 

[michty_me]

I imagine at some point Sony would release an update to support 5k res (considering the PS5 'supports' 8k) - but if it's anything like 1440p it'll end up taking years. It took Sony so insanely long to support 1440p as a 'native' resolution for the console to output to.

Maybe by the time they do support it, Costs of these monitors will drop!