Misplaced priorities

Dirk Diggler · 21 May 2018 at 12:12

Pre-thread reading : https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44084773

We're supposed to be outraged that this poor wee lassie was told she wouldn't make it because she was too fat and ethnic, but when she got there she lied through her teeth to get the job in front of actual experienced candidates and that was OK?

GD, which way does your moral compass point with this one?

Randomface74 · 21 May 2018 at 12:14

My moral compass is I'm not clicking that link.

dowie · 21 May 2018 at 12:17

It's kind of a non-story. She auditioned and they gave her the role based mostly on that audition. It's not like she's lying about being a doctor or something, she's just an actor and actors can be cast based on auditions and how they look. It isn't like they're required to have been to drama school and done a stint with the RSC before they can appear in a sitcom.

Dirk Diggler · 21 May 2018 at 12:17

billysielu said:
My moral compass is I'm not clicking that link.

I've edited it, Android had done some stupid formatting on the original link

Randomface74 · 21 May 2018 at 12:19

I think the article only exists because she's female and not white. So it's media bs, not news.

About 90% of BBC 'news' is feminism/race/gender garbage. Gotta learn to filter it out.

Dirk Diggler · 21 May 2018 at 12:20

dowie said:
She auditioned and they gave her the role based mostly on that audition

Are you assuming that? She was asked about previous experience, so surely that was relevant to those conducting the interview?

dowie · 21 May 2018 at 12:35

String said:
Are you assuming that? She was asked about previous experience, so surely that was relevant to those conducting the interview?

It's an audition not an interview, the relevant experience probably got her the audition. In the audition they get to see her performing the role they're hiring her to perform - that's the important bit, can she play the part, is she right for the part etc... this is an industry where, if there is time, people can run "open auditions" and find talent. It is very different to say a role where a job requires a specific qualification. There are various professional actors with no formal training.

Sankari · 21 May 2018 at 12:40

Jameela Jamil has said she was told she was "too old, too ethnic and too fat" to launch a career in the US.

Or so she claims.

Daftbrown · 21 May 2018 at 12:49

billysielu said:
I think the article only exists because she's female and not white. So it's media bs, not news.

About 90% of BBC 'news' is feminism/race/gender garbage. Gotta learn to filter it out.

That may well be but I in turn think that this thread only exists because she's female and not white. Further to that, the only part that's been highlighted here is the part that casts a negative light upon her. My moral compass on that is that it's certainly not commendable but probably is common practice in Hollywood. Cheeky but she's gotten away with it. For now. It's public knowledge now and could affect future casting. If it were a bloke some might say he'd showed a bit of pluck, "go on my son, get your foot in the door...". But no, this is a woman. Different rules must apply :rolleyes:

As for her views on pay disparity amongst her peers not necessarily being gender-based, her views on the dangers of body image obsession and her attitudes towards cosmetic surgery - my moral compass points to entirely commendable.

FWIW, I watched the first episode of the show mentioned and I thought it was overall rubbish and that she was not particularly talented, so I'm certainly not a Jameela Jamil fanboy.

GravyMonster · 21 May 2018 at 14:07

She said #MeToo had been "amazing" and celebrates the fact that "the men are afraid of the women for the first time ever".

Yay! Celebrating fear! Despite it being complete BS, but whatever generates clicks for your website.

Dirk Diggler · 21 May 2018 at 14:14

Daftbrown said:
That may well be but I in turn think that this thread only exists because she's female and not white

That's very judgemental of you to assume that, I've made it clear it's the deception I am calling into question.

Daftbrown said:
If it were a bloke some might say he'd showed a bit of pluck, "go on my son, get your foot in the door...". But no, this is a woman. Different rules must apply

No one has said that.

Daftbrown said:
As for her views on pay disparity amongst her peers not necessarily being gender-based, her views on the dangers of body image obsession and her attitudes towards cosmetic surgery - my moral compass points to entirely commendable.

Yes, whilst irrelevant to the deception I was addressing in the OP, I do agree with her views there.

dowie · 21 May 2018 at 14:19

Sure the deception is bad/unethical, I don't disagree with you there OP. But in the grand scheme of things it is fairly trivial, I'd certainly consider this case of her hyping up her experience to be a bit different to someone lying about say actual qualifications in a regular job interview where specific qualifications and experience are a real requirement for the role rather than a nice to have thing/plus point to get you seen.

antijoke · 21 May 2018 at 14:19

Who exactly is everyone here? A couple of her mates? What a load of crap.

Avenged7Fold · 21 May 2018 at 14:20

To mean she misrepresented her career history to get a job?

How despicable!

Seems like a non story to me.

AHarvey · 21 May 2018 at 14:20

I'm not De Niro, but I'm getting there

I didn't read past that. It's a non-story about an attention seeking, shallow individual who lied to get a job and is now using her sex/race to get more publicity for herself.

ci_newman · 21 May 2018 at 14:40

Daftbrown said:
That may well be but I in turn think that this thread only exists because she's female and not white. Further to that, the only part that's been highlighted here is the part that casts a negative light upon her. My moral compass on that is that it's certainly not commendable but probably is common practice in Hollywood. Cheeky but she's gotten away with it. For now. It's public knowledge now and could affect future casting. If it were a bloke some might say he'd showed a bit of pluck, "go on my son, get your foot in the door...". But no, this is a woman. Different rules must apply

As for her views on pay disparity amongst her peers not necessarily being gender-based, her views on the dangers of body image obsession and her attitudes towards cosmetic surgery - my moral compass points to entirely commendable.

FWIW, I watched the first episode of the show mentioned and I thought it was overall rubbish and that she was not particularly talented, so I'm certainly not a Jameela Jamil fanboy.

You have to watch a few more episodes before it picks up some good pace. It's an excellent series, but a bit slow to get going.

Daftbrown · 21 May 2018 at 15:22

ci_newman said:
You have to watch a few more episodes before it picks up some good pace. It's an excellent series, but a bit slow to get going.

I didn't want to bring it up here and skew the topic on to cosmetic surgery but I can't stand looking at Kristen Bell's botox face (if that's what it is - I'm no expert). She looks odd and I suspect voluntarily and artificially so. The prevalence of cosmetic surgery amongst screen actors and celebs is not something I'm terribly comfortable with. The quality of the first episode was not sufficient for me to overlook that.