Missed 5900x boat, wait or go 3600?

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So I've not had a useable PC for 2 months and it's really getting to me. Have everything* but a CPU... and the AMD launch turned out to be much lighter than hoped. Possibly not paper, but maybe cardboard. Definitely didn't have stock by the end of my 2pm constance call

I can't decide if I should get a 3100/3300/3600 for 1-12 months, keep waiting, go on a killing spree or just start ranting.

Suggestions please. And no, no members market access. Would be an easy option.

 

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Or a nice s/h 3200G
By the sounds of it around 3 weeks until restocks, not long, but then it is when its the last piece of the puzzle

I'm extremely dubious about second hand hardware. Just feels risky

I also missed the 5900x but got a 3600 today to use whilst I wait. Tried for a 3300x but non in stock.

Why did you prefer the 3300x? Cheaper?

 

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3300x is on par in terms of gaming performances to intel’s 10th gen skus due to its unified CCX.

It was the gaming holy grail of zen2 generation on AMD platform. It kind of shows what a unified CCX without the infinity fabric latency can do in gaming performances.

4c/8t is really going to struggle in some of the current titles and the immediate futures. I don’t think the resell value of any 4c parts will be that great say next year. A 3600 whilst slower in games will still hold up in its resell values.

My internal debate is hung up on cores. My old pc (killed by lightning) was a 6600k, lightly over clocked. In Fortresscraft (current game of interest, is amazingly over looked) it was 100% flat out. But the game threads well.

3300x is probably about on par with the 6600k? Maybe? Would it still have the same limitations?

That's what I'm going around and around about.

 

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3300x will probably fare a little bit better than 6600k but those CPU utilisation will still be high.

Which takes me back to the 3600, and maybe keeping it a while longer. (But that's more money wasted). This is the circle I'm going around.

 

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I ordered 5800x and coming from i7 [email protected]. Got ETA of 30th Nov for new CPU. Wanted to finish the new platform build so I picked up a s/h 3600, and after reading comparisons I was expecting similar performance.
All I can say is wow. The 3600@stock is around 40% faster in games than my decently clocked 6700k. That's when paired with 3080.
I don't know why people say those CPUs are similar performance. And others that are still sitting on ancient 2nd or 4th gen i7s, and saying that they are not much worse than new CPUs..., they don't know what they are talking about.

That's actually really helpful. Would you mind saying which takes you're finding that, and at what resolutions?

 

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Time spy, default settings, my old i7 6700k@4,5ghz 5400(ish) points, Ryzen 3600 7400 points stock

Warzone@1440p mixed settings, but most high/ultra, with Intel 90fps and on Ryzen 3600 getting 120-150. That's with 3080 and same settings for each processor.
Also in warzone was getting some microstuttering that isn't there on Ryzen.

For fairness I'll mention that intel tested on old windows installation and Ryzen on a fresh one. I don't have windows bloated anyways as I use a laptop for daily tasks.

I sold Intel now so can't test with other games unfortunately.

Chip ordered

 

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I got the 6700k and really want to upgrade it sometime next year with a 5950x, reading your reply it sounds like im gonna notice a nice bump in performance.

Join us, buy 3600 now

 

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for anyone who s buying 3600 right now, it is probably a bad time. the price has been hiked pre-sales season. current price is pretty much the same as launch prices.

3600 has historically been as low as £143.99 just as a benchmark of value.

I know.

But right now I have no PC more powerful than my phone. Given 5x00 isn't available till an uncertain date...?

 

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keep an eye on MM

No access. Not willing to spam 200 posts to get there.

 

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keep an eye on other used part forums then

I should have done, but pressed the button this morning already!

 

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It seems to perform almost as well as a 3600 for a lot less.

It's fair. I just wanted it to feel like something of an upgrade?

 

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The best idea would have been to pick up by a 3100 or 3600 two months ago!

2 months ago we knew that the announcements were due. Then the announcements turned out to be announcements of announcements.

The announcements turned up... And in 3-4 weeks you could buy something. Then they sold out instantly. And there's no certainty that I'll get one before Christmas. Hell, Easter looks iffy for a new graphics card.

If I had known then, known, that there wouldn't be a new chipset, and that nothing would be available for half a year... I would have bought a 3600 and said "I'll upgrade fully in 2022".

Hindsight is amazing.

 

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Anyone that thinks their getting a 5xxx chip before Xmas is deluded.

People haven't even got theirs from the first batch!

And that's why I've ordered a 3600

 

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All I can say is wow.

Agreed. It feels like a massive upgrade, and having my desktop back.... booting up and just having my background and icons in the right place. Was actually an emotional moment.

It's also much speedier.

 

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You won't go wrong with a 3600 under £200. I don't think you will lose much re-sale value when you manage to get your hands on a new gen CPU.

I have a feeling that the first PC my oldest child will get might be a hex core. Just a feeling

 

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3600 installed
The difference in night and day compared to an i7 [email protected]. Buttery smoothness in Warzone at last

Also full speed ahead on my NVMe drive now

It just feels good, doesn't it. And you can upgrade later, when the world isn't on fire...

 

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Yep, it's a nice benefit when you all your components are pretty current!

Actually, I probably had similar drive improvements as well