Mistakes of this console generation

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Although we are barely into this 'generation' of consoles, what mistakes do you think each manufacturer has made this time round and should take note of for next time?

To stop this turning into a flame war, the rule is for every mistake you point out, you must also point out a mistake on one of the other two consoles. They don't necessarily have to be related (though a lot of mine are). E.g:

  • 360: No hard drive as standard. DVDs are just too slow to read the amount of content we expect to see on screen. Caching is the answer.
  • PS3: Installing games. The other extreme of the hard drive issue, this takes away the 'spontaneity' of console gaming.
  • PS3: Insane marketing. This is living? Take the Wii's example: if you want to sell consoles, show how fun it is to play the actual games, not a random bald guy in a bath tub and a girl on a toilet.
  • 360: No marketing. I can count the number of Xbox ads I have seen with my fingers. To me the 360 just doesn't appear to be in the mind of the consumer as much as the Playstation 'brand' or the Wii hype.
  • PS3: Treating your customers like chumps. This is my big issue with Sony. Once again they hype a product into the extreme then deliver half of what they promised, then have the gall to stick an enormous price tag on it. Then they release a handful of different revisions, claim rumble is pointless then bring it out anyway. Riiiiidge Racer.
  • 360: Realising that your customers are in fact chumps. Halo 3. Marketing hype sold this game more than actual new features, IMO (it's not a bad game though).
  • Wii: Low third party attach rate. Mario sells big. Third parties are too scared to release new IPs onto the console in case they don't make a profit out of it.
  • PS3: Where are the games? Every time someone debates that in fact the PS3 has great games, they always say the same three examples: MGS4, GT5, FFXIII. Which aren't even out yet.
  • 360: Hardware failures. Do I really need to say anything else?
  • PS3: Software not quite there yet (N.B. I don't own a PS3 so I'm going on previous discussion on the subject). No XMB in game (yet), having to connect your wireless controllers to sync them to the console, no Live-esqe implementation.
 
Competition is good it forces both companies/brands to compete better.

My idieal console is a console that takes the best from both X360 and PS3
I cant pick a favourite

Agreed and also the point of the thread. What mistakes have been made so that the companies can learn from them for next time?
 
Guys, can you stop turning this into a 360 vs PS3 debate and answer in the format I asked for in the OP, or I'll asked the thread to be closed as there are 50 bjillion other threads that debate this issue at length.
 
Where did you get that incorrect fact from? DVD reading rate is actually faster than blu-ray.
Neither are are fast as the HDD.

Incorrect again. Wii consoles sell fast meaning there is much bigger userbase which developers can not ignore. Around 18.5 millions Wii were sold after just 1 year and it won't be long before it passes Gamecube's lifetime sale of just 21 millions! Like PS2 - More consoles sold equals more publishers.

Source: http://uk.gamespot.com/wii/action/supermario128/news.html?sid=6180617&msg_sort=1
My opinion on that comes from chats I have had with a friend who works as a buyer for a publisher (not sure that is the correct term, he evaluates games coming from developers then presents to managers the case of why they should pick up/fund/publish the title). He has yet to have one of the Wii games he has selected picked up because they cannot compete with the big guns like Mario Galaxy, Zelda etc unless it is an existing title being published for other formats as well.

Maybe you need to read up some facts before posting each consoles' pros and cons!
Maybe you need to calm down :p These are my opinions, not facts.
 
But only users/owners can state what mistakes need to be rectified, if you don't own something then you can't really say what it needs to make it better.

Yes you can. I don't own a PS3, but that doesn't mean I am not allowed to say it's too expensive and over-hyped, which I listed on my list of mistakes.
 
I'd get it mounted or preserved if it lasts that long for future generations to see the only surviving 360. :p

I'd honestly be amazed if a launch day console is still going in 3 years.

Ah it's not a launch one. I originally bought mine about 6 months after launch, which was returned after about 6 months thanks to a RROD. The current one was going for about a year before it RRODed, and has been refurbed by MS. Fingers crossed.
 
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