MK vs DC Universe

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Just noticed there's some gameplay footage around now so thought I'd post it

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There's a few mins there and also if you click Chapter 2 there's some more.

Looks pretty good. I've never really liked the 3D MK's as much as the 2D ones but this looks really great and smooth.
 
Tobes said:
Well after Deadly Alliance you got stuff like Deception and Shaolin Monks. It was all the same and yeah it was pretty poor because of that.

But a new next gen MK would be sweet. But they have taken out the gore. The controversy which made the game what it is. That would be like taking out the ability to have sex with hookers in GTA.

Plus I think Ed Boon is a ****. I dunno why. I think it's because he thinks he's still got it. When he clearly hasn't.
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The gore isn't what made the MK games great, it's simply what initially got them attention. The later 2D MK's are easily some of the best fighting games of all time, even compared to today's fighting games, it has nothing to do with the gore.

It still has brutal fighting and blood just not the insane gore of the previous games. There's still finishers for example, but they won't be extreme like ripping someone's head off with the spine still attached. Doesn't mean they're not going to be brutal or awesome. Some of them remain the same infact, Scorpions fatality is the same as in all the other games.

Arguably the actual fighting in this game is more violent than the previous games (Mostly referring to the 2D games here). Could you drag someone along the floor and violently stamp on their face in the previous MK's? Could you throw them through a wall off the edge of a building then punch them on the way down and stomp them into the ground?
 
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wedgie said:
MK has always been about the gore (and at the time it was a good game because of it). Can't actually think of a time when a version of MK has been considered close to being the best fighter around.

Don't know what to make of this game, doesn't look great (and I don't really get the need to combine the two licences). I don't think I'll ever be able to get my head around Superman getting slapped around by some of the chumps from the MK universe. :p
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lol seriously, if you think a bit of gore makes a game good then there's something wrong with you.

You obviously haven't played MK enough or gotten good at it and played against decent players, because then you'd realise why it's a great fighting game. Again mostly talking about the later 2D versions like Trilogy and UMK3.
 
wedgie said:
There's only one idiot here if you don't realise that extreme gore would be very appealing to younger age groups.
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Uhh wait no, you're the ******* idiot because you can't see the difference between appeal and quality. You quite clearly stated that gore makes a good game on a number of occassions, but now you're going on about appeal to younger age groups? :confused: So which one is it? And again I will ask this, are you honestly saying just some gore makes a game good. I can take any game and add some gore and it'll be a good game? You still haven't answered this question, you've totally deviated either intentionally to avoid answering the question of unknowingly because you're an idiot.

wedgie said:
and now it's so **** even the gore can't save it.
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Right, so you've played this game have you?

wedgie said:
The only thing that seperates MK from a million other identikit fighters is the gore....So you like the series (or more specifically one or two games from the series), good for you. You keep playing it while the rest of us continue to see the franchise for the joke it is.
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I direct you back to this part of my last post which you have ignored most likely because I'm right.

KittensCake said:
You obviously haven't played MK enough or gotten good at it and played against decent players, because then you'd realise why it's a great fighting game. Again mostly talking about the later 2D versions like Trilogy and UMK3.
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The later 2D MK's are some of the best 2D fighters around for their depth, the sheer amount of possible combos (Not just programmed combos) and innovations at the time like run button, stamina bar and block button. People are still discovering combos years and years after their release.

As I said before I felt the 3D fighters were a step down, but I only ever played Deadly Alliance and I never got into competitive fighting with that game so I can't comment in that respect, but as far as single player goes it was as good as if not better than many of the other fighting games around at the time.
 
wedgie said:
Right about what? That you personally liked it? I can't argue that, but it's not exactly the general consensus is it.
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Uhhh no, right about the fact that you haven't played it at all or haven't played it properly, and it seems I am right, so how can you sit there and say the entire series is a joke, they're not good games...etc when you haven't even played them? Especially the ones which are generally considered the best of the series?

wedgie said:
Talking about the series in general. Why on earth would you think I wasn't?
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If you were referring to the old games surely you would have said something like "Not even the gore saved them from their mediocrity"...etc.

"and now it's so **** even the gore can't save it."
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Even the gore CAN'T save it, as if it hasn't happened yet, which implies you're not talking about old already released games.

And this is a thread about the new game, I've already established that the later 3D games weren't that great, but you're already knocking the new game and it's not even out.
 
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wedgie said:
I don't give a monkey's what it implies, the game not being released implies I'm not talking about it. At most I'm making the (probably accurate) assumption that MK v DC will be grouped with the rest of the trash in the series.

Do you actually try to misinterpret posts on such a regular basis?
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No I'm just reading what it says, like any normal person would do. What you apparently meant and what you wrote do not match up.
 
Ok that was a mistake, I had just woken up and I was basing that on my recollection of the thread from the night before, but you did say it once, so at the end of the day what difference does it make, my point made with regard to that comment still remains regardless of how many times you said it as long as you said it at least once.
 
All you said was it was a good game because of the gore. That means without the gore it wouldn't have been a good game. Therefore you're saying that a bit of gore makes this game good, which I still think is just ridiculous.

I have never played any MK game for the gore, and I don't know anyone who has. Like I said before the violence and gore is what got it attention initially. The first game probably wouldn't have received much attention if not for the gore, because at the time it was new and controversial, but these days it means nothing.

Even if UMK3 had 0 gore I'd still play it, because it's a great fighting game, gore or not doesn't change anything in that respect, the gore is just minor cosmetics. Maybe some idiot 8 year olds play the game for the gore because it's "cool" but apart from that I doubt anyone does.
 
New video from E3: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36595.html

Looks fairly decent, definitely like it has gone back to the old style of MK, mostly 2D oriented. Some of the new features look fun like that throw mini game thing. Snapping arms will be cool :D

Also I'm glad to hear about the emphasis on player created combos and the 'professional' versions of moves and combinations of moves for the hardcore players to utilise.

Release date is November.
 
Weebull said:
"The quick answer is that Superman actually does have two weaknesses: Kryptonite and magic."

http://kotaku.com/5029909/how-scorpion-can-impale-superman

Yes ladies and gentlemen, our retroactive storyline excuse for beating up superman is wizards did it. Good show, Ed Boon!
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OH GOD, SERIOUSLY. You gimps will find ANY WAY to knock MK. Who CARES about the that stupid crap. And anyway fact is it's impossible to integrate MK and DC whilst maintaining lore. It's a fighting game, for beating the crap out of people, who cares about how they plan to explain how superman can be damaged by things other than kryptonite. IT'S IRRELEVANT BULL****. **** YOU.
 
ojste said:
mk is ass
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dannyjo22 said:
Once you have tried the fatalities your left with a weak fighting game. The only reason anyone played it back in the late 80's was because of the gore. It was all I ever heard about. How violent it was.

That novelty soon wore off. It wasn't even good in the 80's let alone bothering with the format now.
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No. Just no.

http://www.ultimatemk.com/

Take a look at the character strategy guides for UMK3 on that website, and watch the videos at the bottom of the page for each guide, and then tell me that it's a weak fighting game, with no depth...etc. You won't be able to.
 
Weebull said:
A fighting game with one clearly superior character is good?
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All fighting games have characters better than others, especially when you get into deep competitive play which these guides are written around. I don't know of a single fighting game where this is not the case.

But anyway, it's only the guide writers opinion that he is the by far best character. The reality is he's not like some super unbeatable character. He's definitely one of the best but he's not super overpowered and dominating. There's plenty of matches you can watch featuring some of the top players and Kabal loses many, many times.

Watch these videos. These are basically some of the best UMK3 players around (Including the guy that wrote the character guides on that website)

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?p=r&user=derrick1171&page=1

4 matches featuring Kabal here, and he loses 3. What of that what you will.
 
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