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ThomBassmonkey

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I'm thinking about switching my MMO, EVE just isn't doing it for me, I can see the appeal if you're an industrious type but I just like action and every time I play with pretty much anyone I'm reminded of how it's going to take about a year to get my skills good enough to be competitive in 1v1 fights, the other option being losing hundreds of millions repeatedly losing ships while I practice whilst under-skilled. I find the missions dull and I'm really not interested in building things.

I'm looking at WoW (which I've played for years) and SWTOR mainly but every time I think of re-starting WoW I remind myself that I've not been in a decent guild since TBC (cleared most of BT in one night pre-nerf) and before that I wasn't in a good guild since Guild Wars (PvP guild that was casual but all the players were great and we regularly guested for world top 100 guilds as individuals as well as beating top 10 guilds regularly in HoH).

I played the beta in SWTOR and it was pretty fun but I've heard there's not a lot to do end-game and the videos I've seen that look fun are world PvP ones that seem centred on being in a good guild again.

So basically I'm wondering what MMOs are out there that are easy for a good player (I know, a bit arrogant to say, but I've played MMOs a long time and I'm at least easily competant) to find his feet in a brave new world. Things like a good community (or an OCUK community that will accept people for example), semi-skilled playerbase (people that don't stand in the fire) and fun. I'm more into PvP but if there's a decent progression end-game PvE then I enjoy that too.

I'm quite a hardcore player, I level quickly and learn quickly. Games that have no end-game (PvP or PvE) don't interest me since I'll probably get there in a month or two and then have nothing to do.

I know there's hundreds of threads on the interwebs about this but I'm looking for something a bit more useful then "WOW SUXXORZ" with reasons and info about the community since finding a decent guild has always been my main struggle in MMOs.

Thanks for any help. :)
 
arknor said:
i dont believe there are any right now...
maybe look at some of the free to play mmos

everytime ive gone back to WOW after a few weeks i realise why i left in the first place.
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There must be some, I know that WoW is a good game if you find a decent guild, finding one though is pretty much impossible though unless you know someone that's in a good guild. With the split of my last guild, all the good members (about 5 of them, the guild overall wasn't great, we cleared FL normal about 2 weeks before the DW patch) either left the game or joined Sweedish guilds so I'm stuck there. I'm tempted o try SWTOR but it's pretty expensive and worry that the same thing would happen again, I get stuck in a crappy guild that has no progress once I hit 50.

Why are the F2P MMOs better? It seems to me there'd just be more griefers and kids since you don't need to worry about losing an account you've put money into.
 
Tummy said:
We've just started a new Alliance Guild on WoW and are levelling characters if you're interested :)
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Not really interested in levelling, but if someone sent me a scroll I could start at 80 anyway. I saw on the WoW thread a few of you were in a guild together though, what kind of stuff did you do and what were the players like (socially and skill-wise)? How long would it take for people to start hitting max level?

I'm interested :) Just a bit wary because I know how demoralising it is to be doing the same 4 bosses in a raid every week without ever progressing and having no one interested in PvPing.
 
clartymarty said:
Guild Wars 2 will take over a lot of my games when this is release, Beta at the end of March.
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I'll be playing GW2 definitely. The oriignal was my first proper MMO and I loved it, like I said in my OP I was in a decent PvP guild and enjoyed destroying and guesting for top 10 guilds. :) I re-installed it recently but I've forgotten pretty much everything and didn't feel it was worth re-learning everything when I was just using it as a stop-gap for other games to come out.
 
Horse Pop said:
EVE gets a lot more rewarding when you're over the initial SP hump.
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Yeah I understand that but I'm playing with people that have played for years and have all their relevant skills maxed out so I'm going to be playing for years (I worked it out on EVEMon and just to max my core armour and gunnery skills it's about 335 days, that's not including training ships and tech 2 weapons) before I feel like I can compete. That coupled with doing a fleet roam a few days ago that I wasn't as impressed with as I'd hoped (possibly because I was in an intie instead of anything that was actually doing any damage) has just made me think it's not worth the time spent levelling skills.

Thanks Tummy, what realm are you on? I guess you're alliance from your post. :)
 
arknor said:
i didnt say f2p mmos are better ....

if youve played all the well known mmos already theres not really much else
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Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant.

I'm not saying I've not enjoyed some other MMOs, but it's finding a decent guild that's always been the problem. :) I don't see how that would be better in a F2P so I'd rather pay.
 
Twitchy, I've looked into it and because I'm mainly intersted in combat, I have no money haha. I bought two plexes and I'm down to about 250mil already (I've only been playing about 2 and a half months). It'd cost me hundreds of pounds to buy enough isk to spend billions on a char with enough skills to keep me happy.

Arknor, I've never played a new server. The only decent guilds I've been in were in TBC like I said before, both fell apart though due to bad management or officers leaving for RL. Apart from that it's been the classic doing the same few bosses every week with no progress.
 
Wucked said:
I'll just leave this here...

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/208-Eve-Online
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:D Not totally wrong. I do like the idea of EVE but as mentioned I play a lot and having to play a lot without any reward for actually playing (because all the training is on a real-time timer instead of being rewarded for doing things in-game) means that I'm getting nowhere fast and spending all my time doing the same boring missions that offer very little money as rewards.
 
I've been turned off AoC after playing it at release, I loved the concept but it was too glitchy and they just didn't care. I played WAR at release too but the community was sparse then and I've heard it's just gone downhill. I've not really looked into Lineage and Aion, I'll take a peek.
 
Thanks Wucked, I joined an Rvb Ganked a week or two ago, that's what made me realise how utterly hopeless I am :p Thanks for the tip on TERA, I've been watching with interest but to be honest the targetting system put me off, I haven't been thinking of it as a third person game though as you pointed out. :)
 
Thanks guys, I'm trying the free trial in rift and I'll accept the scroll in WoW tomorrow to give that another go :)

SPG, I tried AoC at launch and it was a mess, great concept but but totally let down by being barely playable (and that's generous) and having barely any content. I gave up once I ran out of quests before I hit max level.

JeffH thanks, I'll look into it if I don't pick up Rift or WoW :)
 
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