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Hi folks.
I thought I'd post this as a distinct post, rather than a post on the BMW owner's thread, as it is quite lengthy, and I did not want to divert the BMW thread.
I've also asked around on some official BMW forums, but feedback has been limited.
I wonder if anyone can tell me the best and most authoritative way, as of December 2024 (going into 2025), to:
Why I Am Asking / My Problem
I have a full and extensive service history on my 2015 BMW 3 Series (F30) 320i M-Sport X-Drive.
There are eight recorded services in the iDrive unit, which correlate to my paper records.
Frustratingly though, they do not show in chronological order.
Instead, here is the order in which they show:
There is also a small “naming error” in one of the independent specialist entries, where they have named their business differently than they have named it in their other entries.
I believe the “order problem” might have been caused by the independent specialist possibly not using an update method that is in-line with that used by BMW. Or, perhaps, they have indeed used an official system, but have not taken the time to make sure all entries are chronological.
Solving the Problem: My Research So Far
I have done a fair amount of online research on this topic.
I have done the following searches:
Service History Update Methods That I Am Aware Of
From my YouTube research, there seems to be 3 main approaches to reordering and editing the service history on a BMW iDrive:
Method 1 -- Offline/local only (i.e., in the car only) update method -- using BlackBox Sistemi BMW Service History Manager (“SHM”) Lite (Free) Software.
Disadvantage: If the car ever goes to an official BMW service centre, and they update the service history using their official systems, all “local only” service history entries (which are not held server side, at BMW’s end) will be lost.
Method 2 -- Offline/local only (i.e., in the car only) update method -- using HU Service Manager (Free) Software.
Disadvantage: Same as Method 1.
Method 3 -- Centralised AND local (i.e., on both BMW servers, and in my car) update method -- using official BMW online (subscription) systems and hardware.
Disadvantage: Costly, time-consuming, and reliant on the technician/professional not making any mistakes or omissions when re-logging the service history.
I hope I am broadly on the right track with the above summary.
My Understanding On The Best Solution For My Needs
In summary, I’d like my vehicle’s service history:
Under Method 3, I believe that the process is as follows:
My Plan
I am hopeful that I can go back to my independent BMW specialist to get this done. They are one of the better ones (well-equipped and knowledgeable) in my area, and I believe they have the systems and subscriptions necessary to achieve this.
I’m keen to avoid my local main dealer service centre, if at all possible, on cost grounds, and on grounds of a few disconcerting knowledge gaps they have had in the past. I may be forced to go there if my local BMW independent specialist cannot help me. Even then, I do not know if they would assist with my request.
Questions
Am I on the right track with my thinking here?
Is there anything I have not considered?
If this is going to be extremely time-consuming or costly, or with a very large chance of errors or omissions being made, I may simply accept the imperfect presentation on iDrive, as it is.
Thank you so much for any opinions, views or information folks, and sorry for the very long post.
I thought I'd post this as a distinct post, rather than a post on the BMW owner's thread, as it is quite lengthy, and I did not want to divert the BMW thread.
I've also asked around on some official BMW forums, but feedback has been limited.
I wonder if anyone can tell me the best and most authoritative way, as of December 2024 (going into 2025), to:
- Re-order entries in the iDrive service history record; and
- Edit entries in the iDrive service history record.
- Locally, on my car’s iDrive system; and
- Locally, on my key fob; and
- Centrally, on BMW’s servers.
Why I Am Asking / My Problem
I have a full and extensive service history on my 2015 BMW 3 Series (F30) 320i M-Sport X-Drive.
There are eight recorded services in the iDrive unit, which correlate to my paper records.
Frustratingly though, they do not show in chronological order.
Instead, here is the order in which they show:
- 2020 -- Official BMW service centre service.
- 2019 -- Official BMW service centre service.
- 2018 -- Official BMW service centre service.
- 2017 -- Official BMW service centre service.
- 2021 -- Independent BMW specialist service.
- 2022 -- Independent BMW specialist service.
- 2023 -- Independent BMW specialist service.
- 2024 -- Independent BMW specialist service.
There is also a small “naming error” in one of the independent specialist entries, where they have named their business differently than they have named it in their other entries.
I believe the “order problem” might have been caused by the independent specialist possibly not using an update method that is in-line with that used by BMW. Or, perhaps, they have indeed used an official system, but have not taken the time to make sure all entries are chronological.
Solving the Problem: My Research So Far
I have done a fair amount of online research on this topic.
I have done the following searches:
- Google Search: “bmw idrive reorder service history”
- Google Search: “bmw idrive edit service history”
- Youtube Search: “bmw idrive reorder service history”
- Youtube Search: “bmw idrive edit service history”
Service History Update Methods That I Am Aware Of
From my YouTube research, there seems to be 3 main approaches to reordering and editing the service history on a BMW iDrive:
Method 1 -- Offline/local only (i.e., in the car only) update method -- using BlackBox Sistemi BMW Service History Manager (“SHM”) Lite (Free) Software.
Disadvantage: If the car ever goes to an official BMW service centre, and they update the service history using their official systems, all “local only” service history entries (which are not held server side, at BMW’s end) will be lost.
Method 2 -- Offline/local only (i.e., in the car only) update method -- using HU Service Manager (Free) Software.
Disadvantage: Same as Method 1.
Method 3 -- Centralised AND local (i.e., on both BMW servers, and in my car) update method -- using official BMW online (subscription) systems and hardware.
Disadvantage: Costly, time-consuming, and reliant on the technician/professional not making any mistakes or omissions when re-logging the service history.
I hope I am broadly on the right track with the above summary.
My Understanding On The Best Solution For My Needs
In summary, I’d like my vehicle’s service history:
- Arranged so that it is set out chronologically, with the most recent service at the top, and then working backwards in time, as I scroll down the list.
- Logged centrally on BMW’s servers.
- Logged locally in my car’s iDrive system.
- Logged locally on my key fob.
Under Method 3, I believe that the process is as follows:
- Log into BMW AOS (Aftersales Online System). Only available to authorised businesses and workshops.
- Enter servicing information via KaSIO system. This is then uploaded to a centralised BMW server.
- If, in KaSIO, under "Teleservices", the "Service History via Teleservices" entry says "Yes", the service history information will automatically be downloaded to the vehicle from BMW's centralised servers. This is, as far as I understand it, because the vehicle has its own telecommunications SIM card, and can receive updates of this type that way.
- If, in KaSIO, under "Teleservices", the "Service History via Teleservices" entry says "No", then the technician must use the ISTA system to “download” the service history to the “local” vehicle. I believe this also requires the following official hardware: a BMW ICOM Next A device.
- BMW apparently deem that only the person (or seemingly workshop) that created the original service history entries to be edited are allowed to change them.
- If the modification(s) to the online service history are well after the 7 day limit (or perhaps a 30 day limit?) after their original logging days, a Technical Support enquiry must be made (by the workshop) to BMW to have the records updated.
My Plan
I am hopeful that I can go back to my independent BMW specialist to get this done. They are one of the better ones (well-equipped and knowledgeable) in my area, and I believe they have the systems and subscriptions necessary to achieve this.
I’m keen to avoid my local main dealer service centre, if at all possible, on cost grounds, and on grounds of a few disconcerting knowledge gaps they have had in the past. I may be forced to go there if my local BMW independent specialist cannot help me. Even then, I do not know if they would assist with my request.
Questions
Am I on the right track with my thinking here?
Is there anything I have not considered?
If this is going to be extremely time-consuming or costly, or with a very large chance of errors or omissions being made, I may simply accept the imperfect presentation on iDrive, as it is.
Thank you so much for any opinions, views or information folks, and sorry for the very long post.